things i would like to see in mastodon that pleroma has been able to do for years:

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@ariadne
>- the ability to quarantine unknown instances until they are approved by the admin (pleroma has supported this through a combination of multiple features since 2019)

Wait, what are these features? Being able to check what's trying to federate would be a godsend for me as an admin, but the best I've figured out was running an allowlist instance and manually adding things whenever I see a broken thread, and that gets old fast.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@affine you can automate the allowlisting based on searching the object database for missing references

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@ariadne honestly id move to *oma but like

there's literally like one somewhat good looking client for it, and it's soapbox

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@halva there is a fork of soapbox done by some of the pleroma devs called mangane

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

- automatically detect and mark explicit content as sensitive using perceptual hashing (2021)

- automatically reject illegal content using perceptual hashing (2021)

- block content using DNSBLs (2021)

- block incoming messages with excessive links (2019)

- block incoming messages with excessive mentions (2019)

- force bot traffic to post unlisted (2020)

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

- automatic mitigation of server-DoSing hellthreads (2018)

- automatic rejection of messages which reference unwanted remote emojis (2023)

- automatic follow spam blocking (2019)

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@ariadne What does the third item in this list mean in layman’s terms?

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@AndHuman if i have a local user who i know is going to piss off, say, mastodon.art, i can defederate *that user* from mastodon.art before it ever becomes a problem

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

- normalization of message HTML and mention/hashtag formatting (2019)

- normalization of inline mentions and hashtag presence (2019)

- filtering of activitystreams content types (2019)

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

i could keep going, but i think i've made my point

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@ariadne so we should just run pleroma?

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@ionizedgirl no. there are plenty of reasons to not run pleroma. but Mastodon could actually have moderation tools that are good if Gargron wanted to make them.

i just find it strange that the software that has good moderation tools gets tarnished as "freeze peach" when the dominant software which has *terrible* moderation tools is allowed to just keep having terrible moderation tools and polluting the fediverse with the fallout of its terrible moderation design.

oh right, because one was made by queer people and can be set up easily, and the other was made by a white guy

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@ionizedgirl like this is highly frustrating to me, because the only reason that Mastodon ever gains new moderation tools is because mastodon.social has a crisis where they have to clean up their mess immediately or servers will start defederating them because the mess is too large for the rest of us to deal with.

when will they hold Gargron accountable? well, they can't, because they've been told that alternative options are evil.

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@ariadne what are the downsides to running pleroma?

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@ionizedgirl well, for one, it is built on an RDF data model, which is cool, but that data model is stored in PostgreSQL instead of a real graph database, so this results in a lot of "admin fun" from time to time

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@ariadne Isn't defederating a hashtag just filtering? Mastodon does have that.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@spaduf not at server-wide level

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@ariadne or are we ta lking about features for admins.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@spaduf this thread is an entire listing of server-wide policies that can be installed by an instance's moderation staff

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@ariadne @ionizedgirl
I'll be honest seeing a bunch of nazi shit on the featured instances and a policy of "we won't ban fash" in the dev discussions put me off even thinking about the software for like four years.

(I just checked and one of the "featured instances" on pleroma.social had swastika and sonnenrad on the linked page.)

Like, I agree that the reputation has seriously slowed the propagation of better moderation tools. However I really don't think that this reputation is any surprise.