I see a lot of the drama that is happening between people of color on the platform and the mastodon dev team.
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Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญreplied to Marco Rogers on last edited by
I'm European with low melanin levels.
I am working hard to understand why some people believe in the myth of race, and how that affects their prejudices, and how it is used in society to simplify discussions to the point of not being reality.
Ruling me out just because of my skin pigmentation and place of birth seems... I dunno... wrong?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Marco Rogersreplied to Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญ on last edited by
@pete just based on this post, it doesn't actually sound like you're "working hard to understand". Can you maybe try again to tell me what work you've put into trying to understand?
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Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญreplied to Marco Rogers on last edited by
@polotek Iโm not sure thatโs necessary. The discussion point is that it seems wrong to me to exclude people based upon their skin pigmentation and birthplace. Weโre not discussing how hard I am trying. If thatโs the important discussion then Iโm happy to continue, but it would be good to set out what is an acceptable definition of โtrying hardโ, otherwise itโs easy to move the goalpost and never acknowledge my efforts.
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Marco Rogersreplied to Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญ on last edited by
@pete I am discussing how hard you are trying. It is a prerequisite to me spending any more time engaging with you on this topic. Obviously you have the choice of whether you want to meet that requirement. I'm fine either way. But yes, it is required if you want to have any further discussion with me personally. Cheers.
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damonreplied to Mike Macgirvin ๐ฅ๏ธ on last edited by
@mikedev I think what you have built can be a strong foundation for what people are looking for with a sprinkle of whatever they like about Mastodon
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Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญreplied to Marco Rogers on last edited by
How can I prove that I am good enough?
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Marco Rogersreplied to Pete๐ธ๐ถ๐๐ฝ๐โฎ๐๐๐ญ on last edited by
@pete first off, you can really practice not making assumptions and jumping to conclusions. I didn't ask you to "prove" anything. I asked you to give me some info to help me understand.
If you don't even understand why it is historically relevant for Black people to be wary of this conversation, that already gives me a lot of conversation about your journey in understanding things.
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Marco Rogersreplied to Marco Rogers on last edited by
@pete there were lots of other signals. Like the phrase "the myth of race". The journey that white people have to go on to understand these things is well documented. You're giving off lots of signals that you're not very far along. It doesn't make you a bad person. It does probably make it a waste of my time to engage with you.
I hope that helps explain where I'm coming from. And I sincerely hope you find somebody who is willing to spend more time educating you. But it won't be me. Take care.
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@polotek @blogdiva I think the two most interesting Fediverse problems are, by far, (1) moderation and (2) financial/organizational sustainability. The tech is boring. Fortunately the tech is also acceptably cheap to operate - my thumbnail estimates are less than $2 / user / month. But thereโs loads of unexplored territory in organization design.
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yes, it's me, liza ๐ต๐ท ๐ฆ ๐ฆฆreplied to Tim Bray on last edited by
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yes, it's me, liza ๐ต๐ท ๐ฆ ๐ฆฆreplied to yes on last edited by
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Michael T. Bacon, Ph.D.replied to yes on last edited by
@blogdiva @timnitGebru @polotek @CaribenxMarciaX @are0h
social.coop is run on a co-op model of sorts. I really should know more about the governance model, but I do know it's run through https://opencollective.com/ .
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yes, it's me, liza ๐ต๐ท ๐ฆ ๐ฆฆreplied to Michael T. Bacon on last edited by
@MichaelTBacon @timnitGebru @polotek @CaribenxMarciaX @are0h didn't opencollective close shop?
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@blogdiva @MichaelTBacon @timnitGebru @CaribenxMarciaX @are0h they're going through some changes I guess. But not disappearing.