Heads-up: The CTO of an "AI-powered social network" startup Maven, Jimmy Secretan (ex-lead of OpenAI), confirming that his app has "ingested about 1,120,000 posts from Mastodon".
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This whole #maven thing will likely lead to discussing consent in the fediverse again, so I'd just like to repeat something I said further down the thread.
Folks around here have different preferences when it comes to how their stuff should be shared. And different perspectives on what is and isn't part of the fediverse.
So if someone wants to be left alone, it's okay to leave them alone, no need to "well actually" them.
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And I hope this doesn't need to be said, but let's be civil when emailing Jimmy. I'm frustrated by the arrogance of tech bros, but will never stoop to harassment. A brief, to-the-point note will do!
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@researchbuzz @liaizon @djsundog We need to rethink robots.txt!
Stefan Bohacek (@[email protected])
Just throwing out a thought before I do some research on this, but I think robots.txt needs an update. Ideally I'd like to define an "allow list" that tells web scrapers how my content can be used. Eg.: - monetizable: false - fediverse: true - nonfediverse: false - ai: false Etc. And I'd like to apply this to my social media profile and any other web presence, not just my personal website. #internet #fediverse #SocialMedia #robotsTxt
Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server (stefanbohacek.online)
Mostly just venting here, no idea where I'd even start trying to push something like this through.
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@stefan @liaizon @djsundog Hello everybody, Jimmy CTO of Maven here again. Thanks to everybody who has given honest feedback about our Maven Fediverse integration. As I mentioned toward the top, we set out on this project to help our users on Maven find interesting posts across the Fediverse, and to allow our users to send and receive replies from the rest of the Fediverse.
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@stefan @liaizon @djsundog It's clear from the feedback on this thread that even our experiments with the tech were confusing to users and didn't fit with other people's expectations of how it should work. We are currently pausing this integration, at least until we can better understand how Maven can fit in as a good citizen of the Fediverse.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] but also lmao what a fucking secreting schmuck.
hey guys, I'm gonna re-post wikipedia and call it ENCYCLOPEDIA SECRETAN, money plzzzzzzz. "Look at how much activity is on my Sam Altman funded network, MORE MONEY PLZ"
but also lol at the entire "less toxic" as he takes money from Sam "I'm The World's Worst Gay Man And Should Be Booed At Pride" Altman. -
@stefan People will have different perspectives but posts are public on the fediverse, no?
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@brianvastag The way I think about this, it would be helpful to allow everyone to create a robots.txt file for their own social media profile.
A website that's publicly available online can still define how its content can be accessed.
Also see: https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/112604352640135688
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@Bette I just searched for my server name on the Discover page.
Maven
Maven: Follow interests, not influencers
(app.heymaven.com)
The good news is that they might just be deleting everything.
wakest ⁂ (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image UPDATE 2: so it looks like @[email protected] is deleting the entire 1.12 million scraped posts off of Maven after this thread blew up. So cool I guess? But also sorta totally comes off as "whoopsies" we had no idea what would happen if you scrape millions of posts with no link back to the original. I hope to see an official post mortum on this incident from Maven
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