The One Percent

IninewCrow

The Dawn Of Everything

Fascinating! I'm looking up details of the book now and I'll probably read it ... thanks for the recommendation.

Guy Dudeman

Human society has never truly changed.

Psaldorn

A mass of hands press on the market window
Ghosts of progress, dressed in slow death
Feeding on hunger and glaring through the promise
Upon the food that rots slowly in the aisle
A mass of nameless at the oasis
That hides the graves beneath the master's hill
Are buried for drinking the rivers water while
Shackled to the the line at the empty well

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The world is my expense

The cost of my desire

Jesus blessed me with its future

And I protect it with fire

So raise your fists

And march around

Don't dare take what you need

I'll jail and bury those committed

And smother the rest in greed

Crawl with me into tomorrow

Or I'll drag you to your grave

I'm deep inside your children

They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

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My Everest is anywhere near large enough to describe their greed.

Our Everest

Flax

It was obviously Diddy

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I'm thinking they're about a dozen short of 1500

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Thanks, too many typos...

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Completely disagree. Anthropologic evidence from the past and knowledge gained by studying current primitive tribes suggest that there was much greater equity in our past.

We're kinda like in between chimpanzees and bonobos. We started off more like bonobos but as history marches on we become more like chimpanzees.

Kogasa

Don't think you can stack 2.4 million bananas on top of each other. By volume you'd need like 10^16 bananas to form everest

Guy Dudeman

Maybe it comes and goes.

Because the fact that the majority of civilizations fought and killed each other throughout known history kinda tells me we’ve been at this game for a while now.

And I feel like only in the last 20-30 years have we decided - hey, maybe that’s not so cool anymore?

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You might have heard of the tragedy of the commons. It's long since debunked, even the wikipedia article includes Solutions. The TLDR is that people are willing to follow rules and "police" each other once they are included in the process of creating the rules. It isn't necessary that everyone is a good person, you just need a critical mass and a culture that sanctions selfish behavior instead of promoting is as ours does. SRSLY WRONG has a good podcast episode about commons

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I thought canonically it was the whole island’s vault of bananas in Donkey Kong country.

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Perhaps. I mean yeah the history of humanity over the past 2000 years has been brutal. But we go back much farther than that.

I have a real problem with you saying that in the last 20-30 years humanity has chilled out. We've got multiple genocides going on, constant religious conflict, land war in Europe. The United States is so fucked I can't even begin to list the reasons why, and it's on the brink of some really bad things.

How many people can you kill with a club?
How many people can you kill with a sword?
How many people can you kill with a gun?
How many people can you kill with a cluster bomb?

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You got some countries that it has worked long term?

Guy Dudeman

Dude, I’m just trying to sit here and eat some Oreos.

kamenLady.

Our typos

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And if somebody does somehow build a rival force to take the bananas, nothing truly changed it's just the same system with different apes in the same amount, or actually even worse than the first system which was built upon individual representation which could easily be lost.

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Presence of genocide isn't really an argument against it having chilled out. Empires were born and died all the time in the past, genocides were standard practice by legions, nations consuming each other through war was a constant.

France has been involved in over 200 wars in its history.

Things are different now. Borders being unstable make national headlines. Aggressors in conflicts fact opposition from the entire world even if the defender is a minor state like Ukraine.

Before industrialized agriculture, the Human Population never breached a billion. In the past there was not equity, there was mass starvation for many ruled over by an aristocracy whose only major contribution was organizing militaries to either take food from others or prevent their own food from being taken. All over the world it was common to sell your children because you could not feed them.

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I found "The Better Angels of Our Nature" interesting and well-researched, it changed my opinion on this.