I'm still not clear about the discussion we had yesterday.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by [email protected]
@steve so, I did a gist that I think represents your original point, namely, that regardless of whether the object is represented as a JSON object or an URL in the `items` property array value of an AS2 `Collection`, the triple generated to represent the relationship of containment is the same. Is that roughly it?
https://gist.github.com/evanp/dc5f242aa4a2a6aab1f8b9977e4d04fc
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by [email protected]
@steve I can definitely agree with that, although it gets more complicated with paged collections. For AS2 and AP, this also shows a single note in a collection, but the RDF is not the same.
https://gist.github.com/evanp/86f81773d2a06eac91f67574f004500b
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@evan Yes, that’s essentially it. The AS2 Collection paging is a whole other discussion. The RDF triples are accurately representing what’s in the page-related JSON-LD, but the JSON-LD isn’t literally serializing one item in a Collection. It’s serializing a Collection referencing a CollectionPage (via `first`) that references one item (which is consistent with the RDF triples).
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@steve the note is contained in the collection in all three examples. That's the abstract model. I agree, the RDF is different.
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@evan Right, the RDF differs because the Collection's JSON-LD serialization is different in the paged serialization. I'd prefer that the Collection representation wouldn't change for paging, but I know that's another aspect of AS2 that will not change. Linked Data Platform (LDP) Paging describes a different way that doesn't couple the Collection and page representations so tightly. IIRC, they use Link headers for page refs and transient objects (in AP terms) for pages. https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-paging.html
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@steve it's neat. I can't remember why we decided not to use LDP collections.
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