In one session of #FediForum, I said that I really needed "a map" of the tools and communities for building apps on the Fediverse.To follow up on that, I've posted a first draft of what this looks like to me.If you know more about the Fediverse than me...

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@bouncepaw Oh man. Literally hit refresh right now. Like a dumbass, I didn't open up permissions. But it should work now

Mike Macgirvin 🖥️

Probably should add nodeinfo, although I cringe when saying that because I think people who support tracking in the free web should hang by their nuts.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@mikedev Well gosh.. now I'm conflicted.. Do I listen to Mike Macgirvin and include nodeinfo? Or do I listen to Mike Macgirvin's warning about what'll happen to me specifically if I include nodeinfo 🤪

I'm going to YOLO this and include nodeinfo. Thanks for the insights!

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

Thanks for the feedback and boosts, everyone. You're all awesome. Are there FEPs out there that I should really consider to be "mandatory"?

It's hard to tell from the list which ones are just brainstorming ideas and which ones I should really get into.

I'm happy to start listing out the "best" FEPs, if that would be helpful.

silverpill

@benpate All FEPs are informational. However, some of them may become de-facto standards at some point. You can look at "Implementations" section. If proposal is implemented by two or more projects, it's probably a good one.

Jesse Karmani

@benpate this is a great list! Excellent notes about each resource, too (I felt the same way about go-fed after trying for far too long to build some basic integration with it a few years back).

I’m not sure which section it would fit in, but mentioning https://fedidb.org/ might be useful so folks could add their server/instance to it

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@jesseplusplus Yes, thank you. I remember “thinking about adding FediDB” but not actually “adding FediDB” 🫤

I’ll get that on here too. Thank you!!

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@jesseplusplus By the way, I checked out https://frequency.app -- it looks like a fantastic service! Hopefully, you're getting enough signups to make a go of it!

Also, how did you end up supporting ActivityPub without go-fed? I'm always curious to connect with other #Gophers on the Fediverse -- especially since we seem outnumbered on here by Python and Rust.

Jesse Karmani

@benpate Thanks! I hope so too!

I ended up abandoning my plans to build in go for now and forked mastodon instead. I wanted to focus on prototyping my app and testing out my UX/UI ideas before I went too far down the server-side rabbit-hole again, so I figured with enough monkey-patching in ruby, I could add whatever I needed to the server It’s worked so far, but I’m def hitting some limitations and itching to try out other backends again now that the app has its basic functionality in place

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@jesseplusplus Yeah, I get it. Building *anything* in ActivityPub is tough. Better to sit on top of something that already works.

If you consider coming home to Go in the future, please let me know? I’m getting pretty confident in the libraries I’ve built, and the next step would be to prove that they work for more projects than just my own. So, I’d be happy to help get them integrated into your back end

Jesse Karmani

@benpate I will definitely let you know and take you up on that offer if I end up back in go-land! Hannibal looks super interesting, and what you’ve been able to do with it in Emissary in such a short time is very impressive 🤩

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@jesseplusplus Thank you

But don't let anyone tell you it's been "a short time." I've been sitting on it for *way* too long.The initial commits were something like 4 years ago...

Blaise Pabón - controlpl4n3

@benpate
Wow. #TIL
As long time curmudgeon and newly minted grumpy old man, I have to say, I'm very impressed with Emissary.
https://emissary.dev/home
The site even renders nicely with @Tusky on Android.
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Also #TIL , graphite.rs is a sweet graphics editor. (Thank you @simulo )
Next I will see if I can run it on #fedora Silverblue.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@blaise - Awesome! I'm glad to make a difference. There's still a long way to go, but the more eyes on Emissary, the better -- so please let me know how it goes for you, and how I can make it work better. There's tons of ways to get involved

julian

@[email protected] if you're making a map of the fediverse, does that make you the official fediverse cartographer?

Or does there have to be a drawing involved...

here be dragons...

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@julian Oh gosh, no I just owed another developer a list of the stuff I'm using. "Official" means there's gonna be a committee involved, and hurt feelings when someone's not included.

But maybe this can be a starting point for someone (else) to make a real "official" map for the fedidevs site

If I've missed something important, I swear it's just incompetence, not malice, so let me know and I'll try to fix stuff.

Jeff Sikes

@benpate Glad to see this.

Jesse Karmani

@benpate I feel you.. I started researching options for building frequency in 2018! I’m glad the community and library options have vastly improved since then

Andy Piper

@benpate this is *great*, care to submit some to the #fedidevs site? I might have to borrow some of your list

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@andypiper Yes, this list belongs on FediDevs, not on my website, so please take and use it if you want.

How would I post it to FediDevs? Can I just make a PR?