"Trump 47 isn’t a sequel.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@TCMuffin I fear so. I know someone my age who has been crippled since girlhood because she got polio before the vaccine came out in our childhood. That people want to go back to pre-vaccine eras is just mind-boggling to me. How stupid can we be?

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@willow1958 Well-stated. And horrifying to think about.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Arqtec As someone whose father was wounded in the attack at Pearl Harbor, I very much hope you're right.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@helderweb I share your sense of malaise and even repulsion about news coverage. I'm tempted just to withdraw. I've found it hard to take that path except sporadically following the election, though. Yes, really America?

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@CassandraVert Yes, so it seems.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Greengordon I wish that right along with you.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Greengordon Yes. Excellent analysis from my friend Wendell Griffen.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@timo21 I have to admit having similar thoughts in the wee hours of the night as I toss and turn, sleepless.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@wood5y You're welcome!

[arqtec@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy
Your Dad saw History
My 1st Customer buying one of the houses I built was a Pearl Harbor survivor
His Ship was sunk
He Ended up being one of the Investors in my Construction Company financing individual houses over a 5 year period until his death 1986
Don used to tell me stories of unbelievable horror as the Japanese attacked, his gunnery crew shot down a zero and he was really proud that he served America

[oldguycrusty@mastodon.world]

@wdlindsy @TCMuffin

Apparently about 50% of 'us' are really very very stupid.

Recent electoral evidence supports this statement.

[tcmuffin@toot.wales]

@wdlindsy

I remember my mother being in hospital in Cardiff in 1967 and the young woman in the next bed was in an iron lung because of polio.

She must have been one of the last pre-vaccination childhood cases

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@TCMuffin Astonishing to think we may now be choosing — well, some of us may be choosing for the rest of us — to go back to those bleak days, isn't it?

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@oldguycrusty @TCMuffin Yes, I agree.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Arqtec Yes, he lived through quite an historic event with the bombing of Pearl Harbor. It was the only part of his war experiences he'd ever talk about. I think the horror was increased by the fact that there was no forewarning of the attack. My father said he was asleep in his berth, as were all the other Marines on his ship, and then the attack began suddenly and they had to run to man their stations. He was wounded when a bomb exploded near him and shrapnel pierced his abdomen.

[tcmuffin@toot.wales]

@wdlindsy

Trump et al beggar belief

Mind you all this vaccine denier stuff started with this homegrown w who fraudulently claimed a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in 1998 causing vaccine uptake numbers to crash in most of the English speaking world 🤬

Oddly, the GMC striking him off the GM Register in 2010 received little publicity compared with that for his fraudulent research, from which he stood to benefit financially 🤬

Andrew Wakefield - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

[arqtec@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy
Don said the same thing, some of the guys Maning the gun station were in their underwear
A Submarine was sunk as the 1st shot of the War trying to enter the harbor by the Ward a Old Destroyer
FDR knew War Was Coming, The Brits had sent warnings of Jap naval activity
Code Traffic was being intercepted
Germany Japan Italy wanted war
They wanted Oil, Land, and Slaves
WWII was the Technological Change to try out new ways to kill your fellow man
WWIII will be a Much Greater Death Toll

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Arqtec Yes, that matches what my father said — men running out to the deck of their ships in underwear because the attack came all of a sudden as they slept. Your final two sentences are so good and also ominous.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@TCMuffin Thank you for this good information. It's new to me, for the most part.

[tcmuffin@toot.wales]

@wdlindsy

So many lives have been affected and some will have been destroyed by this vile man 🤬