Let's not jump to conclusions

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Coward and a Nazi apologist? Color me surprised.

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Imo the rich part matters too

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Except South Africa has a specific history where being a white South African, raised in the era in which he was raised, has a very relevant influence on how he sees the world.

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Omg, just because he said he's a Nazi doesn't mean he actually is one. You need to remember he's autistic. He's on the spectrum. Are really harassing this poor man on something he can't control?!

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WHO is downvoting this??? You're absolutely right!

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It matters in the same way that fire can kill you. If you're in a house fire, you died of smoke, not fire. But.....fire can still kill you, and is dangerous.

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I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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I mean.....yeah, ok. You're not wrong in adding that one to the pile, but also it's really weird that was your instinctive go-to on this subject.

We're over here talking about genocide, and hate, and war, and death. You're over here like "Hey, don't forget how some people find looney toons sexy!"

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Nazi on the spectrum.

I imagine there were a bunch at the camps who loved counting

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Guys, guys, guys! You got it all wrong! He was clearly slapping his chest to activate the homing becon to send a request to his home planet, so they can send a UFO to come pick him up! Then he used his arm as an antenna!!!

See? The whole space exploration obsession was just his way of trying to fund a way home.

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Where the attitude comes from matters a lot actually. It informs the conversation and gives relevant context that can be used to determine the veracity of the claim that, no he's not just some awkward guy making a weird gesture, he's a fucking rich white South African who grew up believing that some people are more important than others.

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Speaking of can't control. There are people with a condition called hemiballismus that have rapid violent outstretching of one arm. Even these people don't look as much like a Nazi as Elon did.

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The (white) African I know said that virtually all south Africans they spoke with would be casually racist without a thought about it

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Drawings can't hurt you, dawg.

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I just love how this whole affair and people* using autism as an apology just makes it seem like autists are all braindead, naive and entirely unaware that the way we behave and ourselves communicates something about us. We might not always know just what it communicates or how we ought to behave to communicate, but I'm pretty sure it I did my best impression of some figure I adore, I'd do it in the full knowledge that it communicates "I like this figure and I wish to be like them".

*not you, I understand your comment to be a parody, but the pattern it parodies obviously exists

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I was told the real NAZIs were liberals.

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I am!
Because the fact that his family, the figures he looked up to, and he himself, all directly benefitted from the system of apartheid that was a specific integral part of the system in South Africa from which they derived their gains?

That is relevant in the same way that saying "he was born in Alabama in the 1850s, is the son of a knight of the golden circle, and owns a lot of bedsheets with eyeholes cut in them" would be a valid set of concerns, all of which can be used as valid identifiers that, why, yes, these add together to paint a picture of the culture that this hypothetical man is most likely to espouse. So when he "accidentally" lights a cross on fire while holding a rope with a slipknot in his offhand, do we really think that the tied slipknot at the end of his rope is to lead cattle, or is it more likely that he intends to lynch someone?

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Doesn't make it true for all white South Africans.

If we're ever going to move forward, I think we need to stop seeing others as only members of various groups, each of which we have prejuidces about.

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And Space Karen also believes he has diplomatic immunity.