Let's not jump to conclusions

[email protected]

Guys, guys, guys! You got it all wrong! He was clearly slapping his chest to activate the homing becon to send a request to his home planet, so they can send a UFO to come pick him up! Then he used his arm as an antenna!!!

See? The whole space exploration obsession was just his way of trying to fund a way home.

[email protected]

Where the attitude comes from matters a lot actually. It informs the conversation and gives relevant context that can be used to determine the veracity of the claim that, no he's not just some awkward guy making a weird gesture, he's a fucking rich white South African who grew up believing that some people are more important than others.

[email protected]

Speaking of can't control. There are people with a condition called hemiballismus that have rapid violent outstretching of one arm. Even these people don't look as much like a Nazi as Elon did.

[email protected]

The (white) African I know said that virtually all south Africans they spoke with would be casually racist without a thought about it

[email protected]

Drawings can't hurt you, dawg.

[email protected]

I just love how this whole affair and people* using autism as an apology just makes it seem like autists are all braindead, naive and entirely unaware that the way we behave and ourselves communicates something about us. We might not always know just what it communicates or how we ought to behave to communicate, but I'm pretty sure it I did my best impression of some figure I adore, I'd do it in the full knowledge that it communicates "I like this figure and I wish to be like them".

*not you, I understand your comment to be a parody, but the pattern it parodies obviously exists

[email protected]

I was told the real NAZIs were liberals.

[email protected]

I am!
Because the fact that his family, the figures he looked up to, and he himself, all directly benefitted from the system of apartheid that was a specific integral part of the system in South Africa from which they derived their gains?

That is relevant in the same way that saying "he was born in Alabama in the 1850s, is the son of a knight of the golden circle, and owns a lot of bedsheets with eyeholes cut in them" would be a valid set of concerns, all of which can be used as valid identifiers that, why, yes, these add together to paint a picture of the culture that this hypothetical man is most likely to espouse. So when he "accidentally" lights a cross on fire while holding a rope with a slipknot in his offhand, do we really think that the tied slipknot at the end of his rope is to lead cattle, or is it more likely that he intends to lynch someone?

[email protected]

Doesn't make it true for all white South Africans.

If we're ever going to move forward, I think we need to stop seeing others as only members of various groups, each of which we have prejuidces about.

madjo

And Space Karen also believes he has diplomatic immunity.

madjo

Not all white South Africans are rich.

Darthelmet specifically talked about rich white South Africans.

And in the time that musk’s family lived in South Africa, apartheid was still a thing.

[email protected]

Lol ok that's fair

[email protected]

Still not a fan of pizzacakecomics. The ones that are supposed to be funny aren't, imho, and the political ones are way too heavy-handed for my taste.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I agree with the content, but for a comic that's on the reddit frontpage all the time it's an incredibly crude way of getting the point across.

[email protected]

That's all too many words. You don't need all the exposition. You know how you know the guy you described is a racist? By the the fact that he's a racist. Doing racist things.

All that other stuff is extra padding.

[email protected]

Isn't that why we have the term neonazi? Nothing watered-down about that!

[email protected]

The no true Scotsmen skit is due for a refresh, with a group making excuses about how a series of people aren't real Nazis.

[email protected]

No one here is doing that. What was said is that if a south African does a racist thing, you shouldn't go out of your way to give them benefit of doubt.

[email protected]

i think it’s a fairly good satire of the situation… of course musk didn’t say he was a nazi, but he did give the contemporary neo-nazi salute of hitting his chest first… twice in a row, the same way….

and there’s actually an argument as to whether or not he meant it… even though it’s not ambiguous at all, and he’s had a history of promoting far-right content, the AfD, and his wealth originates in Apartheid South Africa and is obviously soak in blood….

it’s pretty absurd that anyone would deny it.

[email protected]

No true Nazi?

[email protected]

You like them sexy animals doncha, dawg