The more things change

Dragon Rider (drag)

That's because we were having a conversation about men. Drag wouldn't have said men if we weren't talking about men causing problems.

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Nothing logical fits your terf agenda but you push it anyway

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I don't think anyone wants to be entirely dependent on someone else's income, but I do think women are more likely to complain if they're the breadwinner than men are, because of the same traditionel view. You'll rarely hear a guy say "we've grown apart" if his wife works a dead end job or has a lower education.

Owl

Yey, reversed sexism ! That sure will solve every problem !

Can't we just treat people as equal ?

Jerkface (any/all)

Yes, women can also suffer from toxic masculinity.

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In the US this is true in academic philosophy and probably the humanities more generally. Women get tenure track positions with, on average, half the number of publications that men have. Most tenured professors are men, but it's slowly changing as the strong preference for women at the junior levels percolates upward. Within the next twenty or thirty years we'll need to address the bias against men in junior positions or we're going to end up with the same problem but in reverse.

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What protections would you like to see for men?

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He could've saved the world with this comic, but instead he decided to be snarky. What a loss..

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...eh? Who mentioned trans?

It's a fact that white, working class boys are being left behind by the system: https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-committee/news/156024/forgotten-white-workingclass-pupils-let-down-by-decades-of-neglect-mps-say/

There's no agenda here.

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I tagged you long ago

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But the structural inequalities and sexism????

Dark Arc

Outside of a few niches like computer science this is increasingly true in the US as well AFAIK.

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Don't worry, men will go in the corporate world and make more money than women professors.

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"I wish I could work at home tidying up the house for no salary and have no income of my own!"

As a fun aside: both my wife and I would both love to do this! Unfortunately it's just too tough financially in the modern world, so it's never a really serious discussion.

Plus we would have to flip a coin or something to decide who has to be the breadwinner.

We don't really have a relationship that revolves around power-roles though, so it's a bit of a different discussion.

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This was my wife’s experience while in her doctoral program in the States, as well. The structural misogyny and firm barriers to career progression kicked in when she moved to the private sector afterwards.

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did you mean: "what a ~~:.|:;~~"?

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Thank god!

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For education specifically, here's an APA article discussing the problem with a US context, but I have seen the same patterns across other Western education as well.

(www.apa.org)

Simply put, sit-and-listen education disadvantages boys, who also tend to receive more severe punishment than girls for the same behaviours. Add on to that gender stereotypes push boys to be dominant, and doing well at school is not cool for boys.

In general, there are a lot of issues we are simply blind to regarding men. Men are treated as disposable, always potential combatants in a war, never the victim and always the perpetrator of domestic violence and violent crime in general.

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The fact is that there are not just men but only rich people at the top. My education was fucked up by a group of almost exclusively women.

But again, let's play gender war, those at the top haven't stolen enough.

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There's a special place in hell for people like you