Avatar is about capitalism

qyron

There are exactly zero minerals available inside planets that are unavailable on asteroids.

Sci-fi will be sci-fi but can we go back to the time it was at least well thought? Can't hurt. If the objective of the movie was to make social criticism, it didn't need to go to such lenghts.

And it was a boring movie; failed to captivate me.

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I dont get it either. This is not about capitalism, this is about human nature of mindless expansion and exploitation...

Dragon Rider (drag)

There are exactly zero minerals available inside planets that are unavailable on asteroids.

Crystallised urea

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That's right. For example, Australian communists lived in balance with nature for 60,000 years. Then capitalists came and started breaking stuff.

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There's someone arguing otherwise in this very thread

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Pollution actually makes the bugs stronger. Maybe they like pollution and want to go eat it all up.

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Businesses under capitalism aren't required to pay for the externalities of their decisions. In a democratic economy, the people affected by corporate decisions would have a say in those decisions. It's reasonable to assume that people want to breathe clean air and continue to have food and water, so they'd support policies that do that.

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Literally Satisfactory

qyron

Nice to cross paths with you again!

I'll grant that but what use for crystalized urea is there? Urea I know a few. And if we already know how to cultivate diamonds and other artificial gems, why bother mining for that?

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I guess those megafauna who vanished about 59,500 years ago were really messing with the balance.

Dragon Rider (drag)

Drag was making an allegorical point. Perhaps Unobtanium results from an organic process. In the second movie, the capitalists are killing whales for a substance in their brains that makes people immortal. Can't find that on an asteroid.

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Took them more than 500 years to learn to respect nature properly

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qyron

We can save mental effort and just go for the Dune series at this point. What is the point in that? In considering the advances in modern chemistry, there are ever few organic compounds that can not be synthesized.

I fall back to my original thought: is well thought sci-fi so hard to achieve nowadays? If seems there is a fixation about misery and destruction nowadays.

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Aboriginal Elders have told us we are a reflection of the Country: if the land is sick, so are we. If the land is healthy (or punyu), so are we. Wik First Nations scholar Tyson Yunkaporta says our collective wellbeing can only be sustained through a life of communication with a sentient landscape and all things on it.

‘If the land is sick, so are we’: Australian First Nations spirituality explained

At this moment of eco-anxiety, First Nations spiritualities, with their emphasis on balance and responsibility, may help us better live in harmony with all things.

The Conversation (theconversation.com)

You wanna go tell Tyson he's being racist against his own people?

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Are you Tyson?

Dragon Rider (drag)

The totem system from the Countries I am from allows for the person to be the knowledge holder of the animal or plant they are given or born into. Within your family group (also known as mob) you are the person that is responsible for its survival and use. For example, if you are given the Kangaroo, people in your mob or Country would come to you to gain permission to hunt the Kangaroo for food or clothing. If you had observed the Kangaroo having high population numbers you could allow them to be hunted to feed families, and on the flip side if population numbers were low, you would not allow this. This totem system was vital to survival of Indigenous people, but also ensured that biodiversity was sustained. It is considered the social responsibility of the community to preserve the environment. By having this relationship and responsibility with a totem creates lifelong physical, spiritual, and emotional connections to the environment. With my personal totem being a Koala, I have dedicated my research interests to understanding more about this animal and advocating for its conservation and preservation. I have focused my early career research on understanding the Koalas diet selection and its relationship to habitat selection.

Conservation through the eyes of Indigenous Australian culture - The Oxford Scientist

Teresa Cochrane explores the intimate connection between Indigenous peoples in Australia and the environment using personal experiences.

The Oxford Scientist (oxsci.org)

Go tell Teresa that her tribe's environmental management strategies are fake and racist because they make aboriginals look too smart

Dragon Rider (drag)

The totem system from the Countries I am from allows for the person to be the knowledge holder of the animal or plant they are given or born into. Within your family group (also known as mob) you are the person that is responsible for its survival and use. For example, if you are given the Kangaroo, people in your mob or Country would come to you to gain permission to hunt the Kangaroo for food or clothing. If you had observed the Kangaroo having high population numbers you could allow them to be hunted to feed families, and on the flip side if population numbers were low, you would not allow this. This totem system was vital to survival of Indigenous people, but also ensured that biodiversity was sustained. It is considered the social responsibility of the community to preserve the environment. By having this relationship and responsibility with a totem creates lifelong physical, spiritual, and emotional connections to the environment. With my personal totem being a Koala, I have dedicated my research interests to understanding more about this animal and advocating for its conservation and preservation. I have focused my early career research on understanding the Koalas diet selection and its relationship to habitat selection.

Conservation through the eyes of Indigenous Australian culture - The Oxford Scientist

Teresa Cochrane explores the intimate connection between Indigenous peoples in Australia and the environment using personal experiences.

The Oxford Scientist (oxsci.org)

Go tell Teresa that her tribe's environmental management strategies are fake and racist because they make aboriginals look too smart

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Explore, exploit, exterminate.

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Sure, but none of the economies we actually have (or recently had) work like that.