Avatar is about capitalism

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qyron

Nice to cross paths with you again!

I'll grant that but what use for crystalized urea is there? Urea I know a few. And if we already know how to cultivate diamonds and other artificial gems, why bother mining for that?

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I guess those megafauna who vanished about 59,500 years ago were really messing with the balance.

Dragon Rider (drag)

Drag was making an allegorical point. Perhaps Unobtanium results from an organic process. In the second movie, the capitalists are killing whales for a substance in their brains that makes people immortal. Can't find that on an asteroid.

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Took them more than 500 years to learn to respect nature properly

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qyron

We can save mental effort and just go for the Dune series at this point. What is the point in that? In considering the advances in modern chemistry, there are ever few organic compounds that can not be synthesized.

I fall back to my original thought: is well thought sci-fi so hard to achieve nowadays? If seems there is a fixation about misery and destruction nowadays.

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Aboriginal Elders have told us we are a reflection of the Country: if the land is sick, so are we. If the land is healthy (or punyu), so are we. Wik First Nations scholar Tyson Yunkaporta says our collective wellbeing can only be sustained through a life of communication with a sentient landscape and all things on it.

‘If the land is sick, so are we’: Australian First Nations spirituality explained

At this moment of eco-anxiety, First Nations spiritualities, with their emphasis on balance and responsibility, may help us better live in harmony with all things.

The Conversation (theconversation.com)

You wanna go tell Tyson he's being racist against his own people?

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Are you Tyson?

Dragon Rider (drag)

The totem system from the Countries I am from allows for the person to be the knowledge holder of the animal or plant they are given or born into. Within your family group (also known as mob) you are the person that is responsible for its survival and use. For example, if you are given the Kangaroo, people in your mob or Country would come to you to gain permission to hunt the Kangaroo for food or clothing. If you had observed the Kangaroo having high population numbers you could allow them to be hunted to feed families, and on the flip side if population numbers were low, you would not allow this. This totem system was vital to survival of Indigenous people, but also ensured that biodiversity was sustained. It is considered the social responsibility of the community to preserve the environment. By having this relationship and responsibility with a totem creates lifelong physical, spiritual, and emotional connections to the environment. With my personal totem being a Koala, I have dedicated my research interests to understanding more about this animal and advocating for its conservation and preservation. I have focused my early career research on understanding the Koalas diet selection and its relationship to habitat selection.

Conservation through the eyes of Indigenous Australian culture - The Oxford Scientist

Teresa Cochrane explores the intimate connection between Indigenous peoples in Australia and the environment using personal experiences.

The Oxford Scientist (oxsci.org)

Go tell Teresa that her tribe's environmental management strategies are fake and racist because they make aboriginals look too smart

Dragon Rider (drag)

The totem system from the Countries I am from allows for the person to be the knowledge holder of the animal or plant they are given or born into. Within your family group (also known as mob) you are the person that is responsible for its survival and use. For example, if you are given the Kangaroo, people in your mob or Country would come to you to gain permission to hunt the Kangaroo for food or clothing. If you had observed the Kangaroo having high population numbers you could allow them to be hunted to feed families, and on the flip side if population numbers were low, you would not allow this. This totem system was vital to survival of Indigenous people, but also ensured that biodiversity was sustained. It is considered the social responsibility of the community to preserve the environment. By having this relationship and responsibility with a totem creates lifelong physical, spiritual, and emotional connections to the environment. With my personal totem being a Koala, I have dedicated my research interests to understanding more about this animal and advocating for its conservation and preservation. I have focused my early career research on understanding the Koalas diet selection and its relationship to habitat selection.

Conservation through the eyes of Indigenous Australian culture - The Oxford Scientist

Teresa Cochrane explores the intimate connection between Indigenous peoples in Australia and the environment using personal experiences.

The Oxford Scientist (oxsci.org)

Go tell Teresa that her tribe's environmental management strategies are fake and racist because they make aboriginals look too smart

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Explore, exploit, exterminate.

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Sure, but none of the economies we actually have (or recently had) work like that.

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Dragon Rider (drag)

Avatar does have some good science fiction like the idea of a planetary hivemind being worshipped as a god. The Na'vi religion is literally true, it just seems false to humans who don't know anything. That's very different to Dune, where the Fremen religion is true because people like Paul's mum make it true.

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Someone had better have a communist revolution so we do have one like that, then.

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Judging by the communist revolutions we had so far, I'm not holding my breath for that.

qyron

I'll grant that waffer thin idea as a good attempt of putting something akin to good sci-fi into an otherwise solely for visuals work, although I disagree with the notion of deifying something that is tangible, as in the setting put forward in the movie.

And I mentioned Dune because of the immortality mention. The spice is also irreplaceable and unique, produced only in a single planet, through a rather complex organic process, harvested at great risk and cost, then to be synthesized by the tons.

That was good sci-fi, with sound social and religious criticism in it.

Dragon Rider (drag)

If you'll allow drag to play devil's advocate, Eywa isn't tangible. Ewya is a mind, and minds are made of electrical signal patterns. You can't touch electricity. And you definitely can't touch a pattern of information, which is essentially made out of maths. That's what a mind is, a bunch of incredibly complex maths.

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They get stronger because they mutate to fight back