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Let's be honest. You just want to see people die as long as they are the "right" group. Pardon me while I go throw up.

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And now we get the the dumbest fucking argument of all. There are so many guns how are you going to regulate them. It's like if you have a big problem suddenly you can't do anything about it.

If there was ever a reason to regulate something it is when it has become a big problem.

Then you bring up the next stupidest argument. The fact that Japan has no guns but high suicide. Guess what Sherlock? Their suicide rates would be much higher if they had a lot of them.

This has all been discussed and proven thousands of times by empirical evidence. I already told you no matter what I say or evidence I present you won't care.

If your entire family were killed by gun violence and ten million people died tomorrow from preventable gun death you would not care. There is no limit to your lack of humanity. Nothing is going to change your mind.

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Tbh with their cultural aversion to firearms in favor of blades, I doubt this claim as well. In any case they're doing just fine killing themselves without them.

I wouldn't blame the guns, I'd blame the murderer. If your entire family was hacked up tomorrow would you blame Cutco? Have fun with that.

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You are just talking out your ass about Japan. I will tell you something that actually makes sense. Japan eradicated gun crime.

How Japan has almost eradicated gun crime

Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world, and the rules around ownership are very strict.

BBC News (www.bbc.com)

As always you seem to be stuck on the stupid path bringing up a country that proves regulation is effective.

Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world. In 2014 there were just six gun deaths, compared to 33,599 in the US

I told you nothing would change your mind, not fucking the truth, and certainly not reality.

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Where did you get that "65%" and "34%" from? It doesn't match the information in the graph you are responding to.

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Tell that to Shinzo Abe.

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Then what percent of 249 is 42 and 22?

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I am supposed to believe you suddenly care about human life now.

Ok I will bite, let's talk children who have died of gun violence in less than a year in the US.

https://casten.house.gov/media/press-releases/casten-reads-names-665-children-under-11-killed-guns-so-far-year-unable-finish

In his speech, Casten said:

"Madam Speaker, I wanted to take a moment to read the names of the children under 10 years old in America who'v been killed by guns so far this year.

"Aiden, age 8

"Alice, a newborn

"Alyssa, age 6

"Amare, age 10

"Andres, age 9

"Antonio, who went by the nick-name "ESPN"" age 7,

"Arbrie, age 8

"Ariah, age 7

"Arlene, age 9

"Asa, age 8

"Ashton, age 2

"Autumn, age 3

"Avere, 3

"Bella, 4 and her sister Brixx who was a newborn

"Bridger, age 10

"Bryson, 3

"Caleb, 5

"Cayden, 10

"Charlie, 10

"Charlotte, 9

"Charvez , 2

"Chloe, 7

"Clesslynn, 2

"I realize you're gaveling me out.

"There are over 600 names on this list—I

Don't even pretend you care about Shinzo when you could care less about millions of Americans.

It is like your own pet holocaust we all have to live with just so you can fantasize about killing people.

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Oh, I see. You're only counting the times when a bystander successfully intervened. (And now you're being snarky about it, rather than just saying that's what you did.)

In my interpretation, the 113 times where the attacker left the scene are also relevant.

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I'm not claiming "America eradicated gun crime" like you are for japan lol. I'm claiming that "just because someone owns guns doesn't mean they'll shoot theirwifechildrenyaddayadda."

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.........what?

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Well we could count the times where nobody intervened, but that doesn't negate that "that means there was nobody there with a gun to intervene" either. (And I was born snarky tyvm.)

Sure they're relevant, it's just that in most of them there was no gun other than the one held by the shooter (who in many cases wasn't allowed to bring it either) and nobody stopped him with their judo.

Of the ones that did get stopped, 34% were stopped with something that is only 8% likely to be there. That's still significant numbers whether you like it or not.

Even still, 22 is 9% of 249, that's still at least consistent with "likelihood gun there" based on 8% of carriers. I'd say it further supports my guess that "when not, it because gun not there."

And none of this even takes into account the propensity to choose gun free zones as targets further lessening the likelihood of armed response, but I think I'll mention that now.

Finally, it's a bit out of the scope of mass shootings alone but as for defensive gun use per year Harvard estimates it at 100,000/yr, which is more than our gun deaths including suicide yearly. That is also worth mention as while mass shootings themselves are also rare, defense with firearms happens more than death with firearms yearly as a whole.

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No you were claiming that you need a light on your gun so you can tell whether or not they are the person your intending to kill. I am sure they are the bad guy in your fantasy or whatever bullshit goes through you head.

Clearly there are some people who could handle firearms and use them responsibly. You are just not one of them.

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If you're questioning "burglar or wife" because "dark?" Yeah, "flashlight" solves that real fast. You don't think a flashlight will help you see whether someone is your wife or a burglar? Your wife look like a lot of burglars or something? Why are you so against gun safety lmao? It's really strange tbh.

No u lol, you're the one advocating against best safety practices for cool alpha internet points, seek help.

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I know you got downvoted, but in other countries and anywhere other than lemmy, the US and truth social, this is actually normal

It's crazy that extremist groups like the NRA have managed to brainwash so many Americans

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In other countries this is normal. Including here in Australia

Maybe you need to rethink some things and get some perspective from countries where we don't have regular mass shootings. Our kids don't need to do training for school shootings

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Oh I know what I was getting into by commenting on their post. I will gladly take downvotes from gun nutters.

I appreciate what you say though because in the US it seems easy to question your sanity at times.

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'No u lol"

Okay Asinineallthetime.

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Cool, well that's definitely not an option now that we voted in a right wing fascist.

Maybe once leftists get in charge again.

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Cool, if the dumb as shit fascist down the street owns a gun and wants you to die for being different then you need to protect yourself.