Moderators banning/censoring people arent oppressors violating your rights; they are customer service representatives curating the space for their intended costomers. All this to say, I see Karen.

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Most conversations on the internet are worthless or I would even attribute negative value to many of them.

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I'm fine with it, but me personally, am also fine leaving communities when they have stopped being useful and become belligerent, like you're describing.

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But it's a very good guideline for people who, like moderators, have power and imperfect understanding. It's saying, "when in doubt, err on the side of least possible harm". So that's a good guide. Right?

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What if they got off topic. What would happen?

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Generally yes, but I feel a lot of people will assume their grievance is some sort of gray area that needs this type of consideration when it's most likely not.

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here, how to speak then

You missed a closing delimiter on the subclause. Is that still acceptable speech for you?

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Do we count 'nametag' jobs of the late '80s? If so, then I'm in!

southsamurai

Well, that's the problem.

Karen is just an excuse to call women something without having the guts to be up front about it.

Originally, it was about a specific kind of entitled behavior. But it turned into a generic misogynist term like bitch used to be.

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Actually it ain't. Good, catch

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Well there is no clean connection between the rule and reality (short of forbidden word lists anyway). It's always a matter of somebody's interpretation.

Some communities have rules like "don't be a dick", which seems implied.

Maybe rules are inappropriate here. At best a justification.

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Most? Well not my conversations.

Maybe it's a smalltalk vs "largetalk" thing. Maybe most conversations are smalltalk. Talk that's just friendly noise or whatever.

That is a territory with which I am pretty unfamiliar.

But ya, 2 totally different kinds of talk.

Maybe trolling constitutes a 3rd variety.

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But you uttered an opinion about moderation. So don't dodge my point.

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I mod [email protected]

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... how dare I utter an opinion

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I don't think there is much swaying of opinion in online conversations so most conversations is just bluster or time sinks. If anything of value is ever being discussed its an almost certain that astroturfers have infiltrated the conversation and diffused any real action that may have come of it.

Think of reddit. Think of the top 2-3 comments. There are a mountain of comments under those that just fade into obscurity. Their could be someone on reddit posting the "meaning of everything" on every post that hits r/all and it's been virtually censored by just the sheer amount of garbage spam that post will receive. Gaurenteed the posts with the most engagement have been artificially boosted.

I do this constantly and get challenged a lot. The people challenging my ideas and thoughts are trying to convince me of anything. They are trying to wear me down, that's the strategy. If that's what we are up against then nothing good will ever come out of these spaces.

Blaze (he/him)

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haui

Same with the communities I mod. No bans at all so far. But tbf they‘re smaller. The larger communities might be different.

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A majority sure but probably not too much beyond 60%. There’s a lot of pretty evident bad behavior on the mods side

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Happy cake day!

sunzu2

you trust this person to tell you... how to speak

We got a lot of content and vibe modding going on.

This is a classic suppression and steering tactic.