Chats are now federating as limited-visibility posts on the fediverse

julian

@[email protected] might be I can't send messages to you. Not sure if it's a Sharkey thing or a blahaj.zone thing.

Jon

Seems to work! WHy did you think it didn't?

EDIT: oh wait, this is actually an unlisted post, it didn't work, I was confused. I'll try from a mastodon account.

@[email protected]

julian

@[email protected] ah okay great! Just wasn't sure because I didn't get your replies (if any, but now I'm guessing you probably just +1'd them which I don't handle yet!)

Jon

@[email protected] no, no, i just edited my post, I was confused ... in fact it wasn't working, I'll try from a Mastodon account

The Nexus of Privacy

Speaking of the principle of least surprise ... @jdp23 is post got auto-boosted by @activitypub but there wasn't anything that indicated to me that was going to happen.

And, from GoToSocial, the topic's subject shows up nicely from Julian, @jdp23's reply lost the topic, but it showed back up in Julian's reply to the (topicless) reply ... Behavior's similar on Sharkey, although the subject doesn't render as nicely (but it's still readable)

With the @thenexusofprivacy account on Glitch, the subjects don't show up at all -- not even in Julian's original post.

@stefan @julian

The Nexus of Privacy

And also speaking of violations of the principle of least surprise: it's interesitng to look at how these posts do and don't show up on the Discourse thread at https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/chats-are-now-federating-as-limited-visibility-posts-on-the-fediverse/4650/15 ...

Julian's posts are all fine, no surprise, but a good sign for Discourse/NodeBB federation.
@jdp23's posts show up twice on that thread.
@nexus 's post didn't show up on that thread. So on average, my posts are getting there one, which is good, but the standard deviation's higher than I'd like.

Now how about this post from Mastodon?

@stefan @julian

Stefan Bohacek

@jdp23 @julian

"I think you ran into this as well?"

I only recall the situation you just described, when I received a mention without being included.

But I have seen others run into similar situations when they just didn't know that tagging people adds them to a group conversation.

Stefan Bohacek

@jdp23 @julian I've been pretty aware of this myself, but for some reason, on a few occasions I've replied to posts I thought were private, and were in fact public.

Nothing embarrassing though! It helps to just be nice to people privately *and* publicly.

Stefan Bohacek

@thenexusofprivacy @jdp23 @nexus @julian Hah, yeah, seeing mine!

Even though I've been in the fediverse for over a year now, and I'm pretty used to folks from different platforms talking to each other, it's still pretty fascinating to see this between platforms that I don't typically interact with.

Had the same sort of an "aha moment" with Lemmy not too long ago!

The Nexus of Privacy

Yeah, it's amazing when it works. When I tag a Lemmy community in a pst here and it actually shows up as a thread there, it's very cool.

Unfortunately half the time I tag a Lemmy community it doesn't show up as a post there, and there's never indication way. So it's not always amazing. But still, it's amazing when it works!

@stefan @jdp23 @nexus @julian

Jupiter Rowland

@Stefan Bohacek @jdp23 @julian "Shadow mentioning" is a thing. (streams) and Forte do it to avoid clutter. Mentions don't have to be visible in a post/comment to work.