The revolution is inevitable. we need to make it opensource!

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Why not. A good system should be one that it's easy and cheap to put a vote out. If the voting you put on its ridiculous, people simply wont vote it and that's it

It's not like that doesn't existe now. I don't know in the US, but in most european countries and in the european union itself people can try to raise a vote on anything, they just have to be backed up by X number of people.

Just make that easier, 100% online, and instead of sparking a debate of representatives, if the thing had enough support an online referendum is held and if people vote hes it automatically become law.

I don't really see an issue.

We don't have this already only for one reason. The people that would need to allow this (the representatives) would be the ones that would be jobless and powerless if direct democracy where to be implemented, so they won't.

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The elections we have nowadays are already manipulated that way, so there is not a change on that regard.

People should not need to vote on every issue, you should be able to still delegate on a representative. But if on some things you don't agree with your representative you should be able to vote it by your own way.

I remember a proposal someone made a long time ago. About a voting system where every delegate have a "power of vote" and by default is 100% percent. But whenever a voting is made in a representative chamber the vote is also open online. And people's vote would rest value from the representatives votes. So if it's a matter where a lot of people cares and vote directly the people's vote would decide. If people don't care and don't vote the representatives vote would have more power and they would decide.

I thought it was very interesting.

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People don't vote because why bother.

You vote a representative that says "I will do this" and then they don't do it. Representatives lie. And you can't do anything about it within the current political system.

We need a system where popular vote can make decisions directly.

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There's also "A Half-Built Garden" novel where the whole "git as means of direct democracy" is central to the plot. Is gitpunk a genre?

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You seem to forget we live in a planet that follows the laws of physics. Capitalism pretends it can bend those laws. But it will not happen

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Love the brainstorm energy and solution oriented mindset. Few suggestions:

Lets make the game mandatory and nonviolent, except the loser becomes the new kevin and the winner gets blown up with giant lasers.

The kevin system will push people not to be the last one and the laser will discourage people from being at the top.

It would create much more homogenous, and equal society with no class wars because everyone would want to be the part of the "middle class"

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I made a [email protected] a while ago !

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Sounds reasonable. I would just call it the class. Because there will be no upper class and the only poor person will be Kevin, he's such a looser.

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A Kevin just needs to exist as a funnel for our negative emotions. Just knowing that Kevin exists makes my skin boil. Two Kevin's would be a reason for war and we don't do that anymore.

Kevin can sit in chair at an undisclosed location. He gets a VHS of the Buffy the Vampire slayer episode were her mom dies and two bags of dates per day.

I once read on the internet that a dates only diet might be sufficient to nurture you.

Two Kevin's or even more would be morally complicated.

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Yes, a system like that where you can split your voice based on topics, my personal strengths is with financial and technical topics so those I would vote for myself, and delegate everything else to different people or parties sounds much more practical and useable.

That I would find very interesting and possibly a huge step forward.

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There are more reasons, for example that all systems that use online or digital voting can be easily manipulated and lack the possibility to be monitored or validated by independent 3rd parties. I really wish it would be different.

I am a huge fan of direct democracy, but I don't see a good way to implement it.

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It could be different.

I've been thinking a long time. And I think it may be one scenario where a public ledger would actually make sense, aka a blockchain.

Instead of economic transaction, votes are casted. It could be anonymous using one way pseudonyms for the public key. So the caster may be able to verify at any point that their vote was correctly casted, but no one could know who the caster is. The signature keys could be issued by the government same as it's already done in most european countries with digital signatures.

The ledger would be public and anyone could be able to verify the votes in a similar manner as most cryptocurrencies.

I really think there is not a technological barrier here. It's not only more democratic but probably safer that the current way of casting votes. As it could be proven at any point that all votes are casted and valid without interference, no moron could say that "election was stolen" because it could be proven that it was not.

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Yes lady but moral complexity is the raison d'être of the internêt, nay humankind so that has been dealt with in previous discussions (refer fig. 1). Buffy dates everyone so we shall gloss over that to your mention of the edible sort, I think its potatoes that have everything we need except for unprotected social intercourse. All prepped now for utopia.

Figure 1 8====D

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Can you elaborate your thoughts? What does "A GitHub for restructuring society" look like?

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I thought of some subreddit where we would focus on not thrying to go extinct somehow by learning to be self-sufficient and then helping others become the same. Simple, legal, questionably effective. But I got myself banned by saying shit while suicidal.

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I'm not mapping a claim to the efficacy of capitalism. Quite the opposite, really. I'm saying con men will try to reinstate it so they can put themselves at the top.

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The revolution? What revolution? Against ze Germans? WTF are you on about?

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Billions of completely unrelated developments of niche topics in languages most people don't understand and then also hundreds of competing solutions to the same problems.

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With the hyphen, right? Please say with the hyphen.

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Politics favor the bold, the loud and mostly those who have the money to buy the first two.

Those are not the ones with the knowledge and empathy to, lets say for an example, build a new school (not just the building)

Teachers, architects, children, Gardeners, socialworkers, artists etc. Should be able to share their Knowledge and interweave it, while everybody can watch learn and copy.

Together they create a blueprint of the project. Now everybody can come and do the math on it. Or even prototype the school.

Important is the most questionnaire:

Is it the most oecologic solution

The most fair

The most accessible

The most qualitative

The most fun

You can put up existing laws and systems and watch the world tinker with it.

The hard thing is how do you officiate a project or law. But I think something like a monthly vote. you watch the short disclaimer people made aside their changes press yes no or idc.

Oh by the way I do not really know how GitHub works. Never used it.