The revolution is inevitable. we need to make it opensource!

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We don't need to convince the government. We just ignore it until it goes away. If it does not dissolve on its own, we just put it in a submarine.

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We could call that sport the Games for Hunger or something like that and the men could all be running. Also we would need populations of Kevins, perhaps decanted for the purpose because what people really miss in a utopia is the bullying. Not full-on to the death school type bullying, we are all too refined now for that and understand everyone is a sensitive frozen water crystal and any slightly offended sensibility is mortal injury to us all, and just very disappointing. No, what we crave is the no chinned, anonymous and slightly sarcastic bullying of a fully mature mind. Laughing at the opinions of others from our hide shacks and downvoting them in wank-gangs until they yield and go outside, in the air - the true defeat of the internetian. I have forgot the point I was trying to make so I'll stop, but I think the key idea is to reply 'sorry lady but' to any post you know is written by a boy adult.

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No just one Kevin. If you have more than one to hate on its antikevinism and that's just racism without the extra steps.

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The utopia would spread across the entire globe filling every space humanity chose to live, like pouring proprietary cake mix into a fun shaped cake tin made with universal uniqueness to show your love, so a single Kevin would be overworked. He would need to be scaled up as the revolution proceeded. Even Lenin understood this, its why he had that kid with Yoko.

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I've been thinking about this concept for quite a long time now.

4 years election cicles had sense in the XVIII century when the fastest way of communicating was letter delivered by horse.

But with internet it makes no sense that old fashioned system.

Forget about elections every 4 years, forget about having an official month of political campaigns that decide the fate of the country for 4 years, and the 4 years of the president doing whatever they want without consequences.

We have the technology to make a direct democracy. Every citizen should be able to vote on any issue or who is their representative at any point of time.

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Why not. A good system should be one that it's easy and cheap to put a vote out. If the voting you put on its ridiculous, people simply wont vote it and that's it

It's not like that doesn't existe now. I don't know in the US, but in most european countries and in the european union itself people can try to raise a vote on anything, they just have to be backed up by X number of people.

Just make that easier, 100% online, and instead of sparking a debate of representatives, if the thing had enough support an online referendum is held and if people vote hes it automatically become law.

I don't really see an issue.

We don't have this already only for one reason. The people that would need to allow this (the representatives) would be the ones that would be jobless and powerless if direct democracy where to be implemented, so they won't.

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The elections we have nowadays are already manipulated that way, so there is not a change on that regard.

People should not need to vote on every issue, you should be able to still delegate on a representative. But if on some things you don't agree with your representative you should be able to vote it by your own way.

I remember a proposal someone made a long time ago. About a voting system where every delegate have a "power of vote" and by default is 100% percent. But whenever a voting is made in a representative chamber the vote is also open online. And people's vote would rest value from the representatives votes. So if it's a matter where a lot of people cares and vote directly the people's vote would decide. If people don't care and don't vote the representatives vote would have more power and they would decide.

I thought it was very interesting.

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People don't vote because why bother.

You vote a representative that says "I will do this" and then they don't do it. Representatives lie. And you can't do anything about it within the current political system.

We need a system where popular vote can make decisions directly.

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There's also "A Half-Built Garden" novel where the whole "git as means of direct democracy" is central to the plot. Is gitpunk a genre?

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You seem to forget we live in a planet that follows the laws of physics. Capitalism pretends it can bend those laws. But it will not happen

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Love the brainstorm energy and solution oriented mindset. Few suggestions:

Lets make the game mandatory and nonviolent, except the loser becomes the new kevin and the winner gets blown up with giant lasers.

The kevin system will push people not to be the last one and the laser will discourage people from being at the top.

It would create much more homogenous, and equal society with no class wars because everyone would want to be the part of the "middle class"

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Sounds reasonable. I would just call it the class. Because there will be no upper class and the only poor person will be Kevin, he's such a looser.

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A Kevin just needs to exist as a funnel for our negative emotions. Just knowing that Kevin exists makes my skin boil. Two Kevin's would be a reason for war and we don't do that anymore.

Kevin can sit in chair at an undisclosed location. He gets a VHS of the Buffy the Vampire slayer episode were her mom dies and two bags of dates per day.

I once read on the internet that a dates only diet might be sufficient to nurture you.

Two Kevin's or even more would be morally complicated.

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Yes, a system like that where you can split your voice based on topics, my personal strengths is with financial and technical topics so those I would vote for myself, and delegate everything else to different people or parties sounds much more practical and useable.

That I would find very interesting and possibly a huge step forward.

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There are more reasons, for example that all systems that use online or digital voting can be easily manipulated and lack the possibility to be monitored or validated by independent 3rd parties. I really wish it would be different.

I am a huge fan of direct democracy, but I don't see a good way to implement it.

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It could be different.

I've been thinking a long time. And I think it may be one scenario where a public ledger would actually make sense, aka a blockchain.

Instead of economic transaction, votes are casted. It could be anonymous using one way pseudonyms for the public key. So the caster may be able to verify at any point that their vote was correctly casted, but no one could know who the caster is. The signature keys could be issued by the government same as it's already done in most european countries with digital signatures.

The ledger would be public and anyone could be able to verify the votes in a similar manner as most cryptocurrencies.

I really think there is not a technological barrier here. It's not only more democratic but probably safer that the current way of casting votes. As it could be proven at any point that all votes are casted and valid without interference, no moron could say that "election was stolen" because it could be proven that it was not.

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Yes lady but moral complexity is the raison d'être of the internêt, nay humankind so that has been dealt with in previous discussions (refer fig. 1). Buffy dates everyone so we shall gloss over that to your mention of the edible sort, I think its potatoes that have everything we need except for unprotected social intercourse. All prepped now for utopia.

Figure 1 8====D

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Can you elaborate your thoughts? What does "A GitHub for restructuring society" look like?

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I thought of some subreddit where we would focus on not thrying to go extinct somehow by learning to be self-sufficient and then helping others become the same. Simple, legal, questionably effective. But I got myself banned by saying shit while suicidal.