The more things change

nifty

I guess that’s fair

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What a clever comment on modern society, this will truly change the way everyone looks at women in jobs

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That's true, but the person perceived to be "in power" in the relationship (what was called traditionally the breadwinner) is less likely to complain about the situation. I don't think many working people, women or otherwise, think "I wish I could work at home tidying up the house for no salary and have no income of my own!"

I agree with your point still - once children are in the equation some women might shift towards the traditional view if that means they'd get to stay at home spending time with them.

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think “I wish I could work at home tidying up the house for no salary and have no income of my own!”

No, they think that "since I'm a higher social class, I will not date anyone without a doctorate". Women still largely tend to seek men earning more than them due to existing or perceived pressures, it's just that since they now earn more, everyone is a bit lonelier.

To be clear, I'm not saying that women should go back to earning less, I'm saying that people should adapt and be happier.

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Maybe them being men is not their defining feature. And they simply love you blaming all men instead of them specifically.

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Education in general is quite fucked up for boys, but they are not a protected group so we let them suffer.

Dragon Rider (drag)

Drag didn't say all men. It seems like you added that part.

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Here in the UK (and I imagine it's similar across the rest of Europe), the most disadvantaged group in education are white, working class boys.

But this doesn't fit the "privilege" narrative so no one gives a shit.

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Okay, but you still refer to them as "men", instead of focusing on any other feature, thus placing the blame on "men".

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I can somewhat confirm your first statement.

I began my Master's study a few years ago and had to retake a course since I've switched to another university and they claimed that my Bachelor's study wasn't equal to theirs. A female friend of mine did the exact same and had exactly the same education than me. The dean of our new study wrote her personally and said that he will make sure that she doesn't have to retake any courses if she starts studying here. I'm still kinda pissed about that tbh.

Dragon Rider (drag)

That's because we were having a conversation about men. Drag wouldn't have said men if we weren't talking about men causing problems.

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Nothing logical fits your terf agenda but you push it anyway

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I don't think anyone wants to be entirely dependent on someone else's income, but I do think women are more likely to complain if they're the breadwinner than men are, because of the same traditionel view. You'll rarely hear a guy say "we've grown apart" if his wife works a dead end job or has a lower education.

Owl

Yey, reversed sexism ! That sure will solve every problem !

Can't we just treat people as equal ?

Jerkface (any/all)

Yes, women can also suffer from toxic masculinity.

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In the US this is true in academic philosophy and probably the humanities more generally. Women get tenure track positions with, on average, half the number of publications that men have. Most tenured professors are men, but it's slowly changing as the strong preference for women at the junior levels percolates upward. Within the next twenty or thirty years we'll need to address the bias against men in junior positions or we're going to end up with the same problem but in reverse.

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What protections would you like to see for men?

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He could've saved the world with this comic, but instead he decided to be snarky. What a loss..

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...eh? Who mentioned trans?

It's a fact that white, working class boys are being left behind by the system: https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-committee/news/156024/forgotten-white-workingclass-pupils-let-down-by-decades-of-neglect-mps-say/

There's no agenda here.

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I tagged you long ago