I just sent the final proofs of the #ActivityPub book to the editors at O'Reilly.
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@[email protected] start working on the sequel: ActivityPub: The Good Parts
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
You can still read the pre-release version on O'Reilly Learning Platform for free with a 10-day trial of the service. I don't know how much longer that deal is going to be around.
ActivityPub
ActivityPub is the new standard for connecting social networks together on the social web. This open, decentralized social networking protocol defines an API for sharing activities to a social network … - Selection from ActivityPub [Book]
O’Reilly Online Learning (www.oreilly.com)
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@julian @erincandescent They're all good parts!
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infinite love ⴳreplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
@evan @julian @erincandescent they're good parts, julian
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] did I end up sounding facetious? Didn't mean to, was just a joke about Javascript: The Good Parts being a small book, heh.
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@julian @evan @erincandescent oh, no, don't worry, i understood the intent, i was just referencing "they're good dogs brent"
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@julian @trwnh @erincandescent It's also one of the best programming books ever written. It literally changed the industry. I love that book.
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@[email protected] I actually did not know that this meme existed, that's hilarious!
I'm one of today's 10,000 and it's only 37 minutes past midnight...
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@evan congrats! Just a curiosity, is there a comparison with other protocols trying to create an interoperable web? I'm trying to understand why AT Protocol was created. I still need to read some references some people shared here.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to everton137 on last edited by [email protected]
@everton137 it was created because Jack Dorsey thought Twitter could spin out a business with a protocol as a product. They would connect big social networks, using the Twitter user and content base as an enticement. Those networks would pay BS to develop and maintain the pipes connecting servers.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
@everton137 using an existing open standard wouldn't work for this business model, because those big social networks could connect without paying anything to BS. They needed to make a new, incompatible protocol that other businesses had to pay for.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by [email protected]
@everton137 Twitter gave them $13M, and they raised another $8M. They've spent that money developing their proprietary protocol. I don't think it's a successful strategy. They are shooting the moon; hoping to be successful at all other developers' expense.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
@everton137 my knowledge of this is firsthand. I talked with Parag, then CTO of Twitter, about it when BS first started. He laid out the entire business plan for me. I was part of the BS community that discussed different protocols to use.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by [email protected]
@everton137 I don't agree that the primary motivations for starting BS were technical, in response to AP's failings. I don't think it's fair for BS people to position it that way.
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@evan got it. Thank you for sharing!
Just one point, isn't AT Protocol open source?
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@evan your points shared here deserve an article. :mastogrin:
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Evan Prodromoureplied to everton137 on last edited by [email protected]
Parts of the BS stack are Open Source. The protocol is not an open standard. There is no guarantee that if you make your own implementation with different source code, you will not be subject to patent or other IP liability.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
@everton137 you asked why the BS protocol exists. I just explained the why.
Once Elon Musk bought Twitter, the BS company's deal to federate Twitter first fell through. So they've been in zombie mode for the last couple of years; their original reason for existing is gone, but they had a big pile of money, and they didn't want to give it back to Twitter. So they kept it and kept going.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by
@everton137 their big advantage over ActivityPub is a unified stack. There's one client, one server, and one user experience. Signing up for BS is just like signing up for a really faithful Twitter clone.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou on last edited by [email protected]
@everton137 I don't think the AT protocol will outlast BlueSky, the company.
