Do you have limited or full access to your host?
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Do you have full root/administrative access to your hosting server?
Let's explain the differences.
Managed
A managed hosting platform, is typically where the hosting provider gives you a control panel with limited access for managing your website or application but does not provide full root or administrative access to the underlying operating system.This setup is common in shared hosting environments or managed VPS/cloud services, where users are not expected to handle the more technical aspects of server management, like security updates or server-side configurations.
Control panels
Control panels like cPanel, Plesk, or DirectAdmin offer user-friendly graphical interfaces to manage hosting services without needing to access the server directly through the command line.
They are designed to simplify web hosting management, allowing users to perform tasks such as setting up emails, managing databases, and installing software like content management systems with just a few clicks.When you do not have full access, it's typically referred to as "managed hosting" but can also be behind panels.
Full host control
Conversely, an environment that provides you with complete access to the OS is known as "unmanaged hosting," where you have root or administrator privileges and can install and configure any software you like.So the question is, do you have full root/administrative access to your hosting server?
Yes means you have full access and manage the server yourself. It also means you can install anything you want on the operating system.
No means you use a managed hosting service and/or a control panel. It means while you can upload files and other things within your hosting space, you would not be able to install a program/binary on the operating system that could run as root or any other user.
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Good call Jullian.
I did feed my post into AI to try and organize it a bit better. However, I then re-wrote parts of it to sound like myself again. I wanted folks to more easily understand what I was asking.I find it interesting that as humans, we're starting to notice AI written stuff but for how long.
Now, more importantly, how do I get people to chime in? Did I post this in the wrong place?
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@NodeHam I'm in my mid-to-late 30s. I'm a dinosaur in industry terms.
I don't like to manage my own physical servers (though I know how), so I like cloud VPSs. I like the ability to remotely administer my server over ssh.
Managed hosting democratizes web app software, so it is very important too.
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@julian said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
I'm in my mid-to-late 30s. I'm a dinosaur in industry terms.
Wow. I'm 50 so I guess I must be Paleozoic
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@phenomlab if he's a dino, I must be a grandfather at the ripe old age of 25....
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@tankerkiller125 now I feel really old.
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@phenomlab @tankerkiller125
you guys.25 is employable as a dev (although in this climate maybe not?)
After 30 I think it's time to start looking at senior/management roles
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@julian said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
After 30 I think it's time to start looking at senior/management role
That's me then. Head of IT and CISO.
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Unhijacking for a moment
I use a spare laptop running Ubuntu as my server.
At first I thought 'free' hosting was great, but ...
It does give frequent issues, e.g. free SSL certs expire after 3months and need resetting
When it does go down (not often), but it will typically be a day Im away on holiday!
its not actually free, as the energy use adds up. e.g. 40watts * 24hrs = 1kwhr per day, around £4 or $5 per week!But I do have the advantage of direct access to it at home, and I can SSH in also.
To add: Its only really NodeBB that keeps me running my own server now, as do see the benefits of getting a host
But the cheaper shared hosting ones can't run Node and NodeBB
My only experiments with the few that can, didnt go well a few years ago. I would be interested in that situation now-
what realistically is the lowest monthly hosting that can run NodeBB.
I did have this conversation previously with @phenomlab, and I recall we were looking at around $40 a month upwards for a dedicated host -
@eeeee said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
I did have this conversation previously with @phenomlab, and I recall we were looking at around $40 a month upwards for a dedicated host
Why do you need dedicated? I am running my own VPS which is used for a multitude, but if you are running only NodeBB, it's so much cheaper than that
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Going back off track ... RE: Developers under 25
@julian
it does seem younger people are preferred as coders, but I don't get why?
For example its taken me years to develop skills in a multitude of areas which I didnt have in early 20s.
One example of that might be maths element, I've seen 'younger' coders do some things which were inefficient, and I know better methods for.
?I agree with you implied statement about the 'market'
I've got friends in their 20's who recently did computer degrees, struggling to find tech jobs, and are only using their computer skills in their spare time.
The tech jobs market place is really not easy now. -
@eeeee said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
I've got friends in their 20's who recently did computer degrees, struggling to find tech jobs, and are only using their computer skills in their spare time.
The tech jobs market place is really not easy now.Yes. Made so much worse by HR departments making decisions on candidates. I wrote an article about that there
https://sudonix.org/topic/169/experience-vs-certification-who-wins?
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@eeeee said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
it does seem younger people are preferred as coders, but I don't get why?
Where I work all the devs are 50+ years old. And honestly, given the stuff we do I wouldn't trust a 20 something dev with it anyway. (Complex accounting software/ERP software that has to meet regulatory conditions).
These guys have been at it for 30+ years and actually helped write some of the original modules (before the CEO pulled them away from the company that writes the software we customize). And their knowledge is VAST, hell the lead engineer actually has a degree in forensics accounting.
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@eeeee My rather jaded thinking is that devs under 30 are preferred in certain contexts like SV because you can more easily buy loyalty and overtime from that age bracket with in-office perks and salary.
The older you get, the more experienced you get, but also probably value work-life balance a whole lot more due to family and other responsibilities.
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@julian said in Do you have limited or full access to your host?:
probably value work-life balance a whole lot more due to family and other responsibilities.
Exactly.
