TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) and its use by white people like me is frowned upon.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Doesn't seem to be correct, its usage is not limited to AAVE, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all
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@jwildeboer Doesn't seem to be correct, its usage is not limited to AAVE, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all
wrote last edited by [email protected]@andreasdotorg When non-white people tell me they'd prefer that I not use the term, I am free to decide to respect their wishes. I will not go into a fight over the origin, meaning and interpretations. I simply use a different word from now on and move on. I am not asking other people to do the same.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Perhaps it originated in AAVE, but It has been used by people of all colors in the southeastern United States for hundreds of years. Yʼall belongs to us all.
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@jwildeboer Perhaps it originated in AAVE, but It has been used by people of all colors in the southeastern United States for hundreds of years. Yʼall belongs to us all.
@monkeyborg See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made a decision and I explained my reasons. Is all.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer never heard that, my personal family experience for generations is it's a southernism used unironically, not racially exclusive. That seems revisionist.
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@jwildeboer never heard that, my personal family experience for generations is it's a southernism used unironically, not racially exclusive. That seems revisionist.
@engarneering See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made my decision and explained my reasons. I am not telling anyone else to do the same.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer that’s not true. It’s not true at all. It’s a regionalism. Whoever told you that has never met anyone from the southern United States.
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So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
@jwildeboer in Pennsylvania we have 'youse' on the east and 'yins' on the west.
A real linguistic paradox is that while having two different words for second person singular and second person plural is a more sophisticated language construction, in English it is viewed as ignorant (typically by people that only speak one language)
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@jwildeboer that’s not true. It’s not true at all. It’s a regionalism. Whoever told you that has never met anyone from the southern United States.
@jonathankoren See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made a decision and I explained my reasons. I am not asking other people to do the same.
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@andreasdotorg When non-white people tell me they'd prefer that I not use the term, I am free to decide to respect their wishes. I will not go into a fight over the origin, meaning and interpretations. I simply use a different word from now on and move on. I am not asking other people to do the same.
@jwildeboer @andreasdotorg
Not going to disagree with you here, especially because I also use "folks", but as someone who lives in the South of USA, I can confirm y'all is a common word used around here, no matter who you are.
"Welcome Y'all" Signs Pop Up Around The Triangle
Drivers in the area may notice an outcropping of signs that say "Welcome to Raleigh, Y'all." The yard signs and murals give the greeting in 17 languages.…
WUNC (www.wunc.org)
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@jwildeboer @andreasdotorg
Not going to disagree with you here, especially because I also use "folks", but as someone who lives in the South of USA, I can confirm y'all is a common word used around here, no matter who you are.
"Welcome Y'all" Signs Pop Up Around The Triangle
Drivers in the area may notice an outcropping of signs that say "Welcome to Raleigh, Y'all." The yard signs and murals give the greeting in 17 languages.…
WUNC (www.wunc.org)
@badnetmask @andreasdotorg Sure. But I am not from nor do I live in the south of USA. So I have simply decided to use a different word and that's all.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Edit: I respect your decision, and hope it's ok I include my thoughts
That's news to me
A lot of African Americans brought "y'all" to the north, so if you're in a northern state, I guess it could be considered AAVE. But there are conflicting accounts of how it originated in the south -
@jwildeboer Edit: I respect your decision, and hope it's ok I include my thoughts
That's news to me
A lot of African Americans brought "y'all" to the north, so if you're in a northern state, I guess it could be considered AAVE. But there are conflicting accounts of how it originated in the south@aires Yep. But I simply have neither the time nor the energy to go into such discussions. I simply use a different word and move on. Is all
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer I have not heard this before! Can you point me somewhere where I can learn more?
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@jwildeboer I have not heard this before! Can you point me somewhere where I can learn more?
@dneary No. I simply don't have the time or energy to research that topic. I was asked in friendly ways by people I respect to not use that term and I agreed to that. Is all.
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So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
wrote last edited by [email protected]And to make this very clear: You are free to use whatever words you want. I am not telling you to do the same. I did not research deeply about the origin and specifics. There are enough other terms I can use instead, so I will. That's all, folks
There are bigger problems to solve out there. Language bike shedding is not my thing -
@jwildeboer in Pennsylvania we have 'youse' on the east and 'yins' on the west.
A real linguistic paradox is that while having two different words for second person singular and second person plural is a more sophisticated language construction, in English it is viewed as ignorant (typically by people that only speak one language)
@donholloway @jwildeboer ha, "you's" is also common Scottish, especially Glaswegian, and I love it very much
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@donholloway @jwildeboer ha, "you's" is also common Scottish, especially Glaswegian, and I love it very much
@donholloway ... and wikipedia to the rescue: You § Plural forms - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You#Plural_forms
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