TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) and its use by white people like me is frowned upon.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Doesn't seem to be correct, its usage is not limited to AAVE, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all
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@jwildeboer Doesn't seem to be correct, its usage is not limited to AAVE, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all
wrote last edited by [email protected]@andreasdotorg When non-white people tell me they'd prefer that I not use the term, I am free to decide to respect their wishes. I will not go into a fight over the origin, meaning and interpretations. I simply use a different word from now on and move on. I am not asking other people to do the same.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Perhaps it originated in AAVE, but It has been used by people of all colors in the southeastern United States for hundreds of years. Yʼall belongs to us all.
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@jwildeboer Perhaps it originated in AAVE, but It has been used by people of all colors in the southeastern United States for hundreds of years. Yʼall belongs to us all.
@monkeyborg See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made a decision and I explained my reasons. Is all.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer never heard that, my personal family experience for generations is it's a southernism used unironically, not racially exclusive. That seems revisionist.
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@jwildeboer never heard that, my personal family experience for generations is it's a southernism used unironically, not racially exclusive. That seems revisionist.
@engarneering See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made my decision and explained my reasons. I am not telling anyone else to do the same.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer that’s not true. It’s not true at all. It’s a regionalism. Whoever told you that has never met anyone from the southern United States.
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So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
@jwildeboer in Pennsylvania we have 'youse' on the east and 'yins' on the west.
A real linguistic paradox is that while having two different words for second person singular and second person plural is a more sophisticated language construction, in English it is viewed as ignorant (typically by people that only speak one language)
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@jwildeboer that’s not true. It’s not true at all. It’s a regionalism. Whoever told you that has never met anyone from the southern United States.
@jonathankoren See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/113963244609733052 I made a decision and I explained my reasons. I am not asking other people to do the same.
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@andreasdotorg When non-white people tell me they'd prefer that I not use the term, I am free to decide to respect their wishes. I will not go into a fight over the origin, meaning and interpretations. I simply use a different word from now on and move on. I am not asking other people to do the same.
@jwildeboer @andreasdotorg
Not going to disagree with you here, especially because I also use "folks", but as someone who lives in the South of USA, I can confirm y'all is a common word used around here, no matter who you are.https://www.wunc.org/news/2017-04-21/welcome-yall-signs-pop-up-around-the-triangle
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@jwildeboer @andreasdotorg
Not going to disagree with you here, especially because I also use "folks", but as someone who lives in the South of USA, I can confirm y'all is a common word used around here, no matter who you are.https://www.wunc.org/news/2017-04-21/welcome-yall-signs-pop-up-around-the-triangle
@badnetmask @andreasdotorg Sure. But I am not from nor do I live in the south of USA. So I have simply decided to use a different word and that's all.
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer Edit: I respect your decision, and hope it's ok I include my thoughts
That's news to me
A lot of African Americans brought "y'all" to the north, so if you're in a northern state, I guess it could be considered AAVE. But there are conflicting accounts of how it originated in the south -
@jwildeboer Edit: I respect your decision, and hope it's ok I include my thoughts
That's news to me
A lot of African Americans brought "y'all" to the north, so if you're in a northern state, I guess it could be considered AAVE. But there are conflicting accounts of how it originated in the south@aires Yep. But I simply have neither the time nor the energy to go into such discussions. I simply use a different word and move on. Is all
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TIL that the term "Y'all" is considered AAVE (african american vernacular English) by people I respect a lot and its use by white people like me is frowned upon. Hence I will not use the term anymore and apologise for the times I did, not knowing the specifics.
@jwildeboer I have not heard this before! Can you point me somewhere where I can learn more?
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@jwildeboer I have not heard this before! Can you point me somewhere where I can learn more?
@dneary No. I simply don't have the time or energy to research that topic. I was asked in friendly ways by people I respect to not use that term and I agreed to that. Is all.
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So I will now just say "people" or "folks" instead as I want to avoid the colloquial "guys" for obvious reasons.
wrote last edited by [email protected]And to make this very clear: You are free to use whatever words you want. I am not telling you to do the same. I did not research deeply about the origin and specifics. There are enough other terms I can use instead, so I will. That's all, folks
There are bigger problems to solve out there. Language bike shedding is not my thing -
@jwildeboer in Pennsylvania we have 'youse' on the east and 'yins' on the west.
A real linguistic paradox is that while having two different words for second person singular and second person plural is a more sophisticated language construction, in English it is viewed as ignorant (typically by people that only speak one language)
@donholloway @jwildeboer ha, "you's" is also common Scottish, especially Glaswegian, and I love it very much
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@donholloway @jwildeboer ha, "you's" is also common Scottish, especially Glaswegian, and I love it very much
@donholloway ... and wikipedia to the rescue: You § Plural forms - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You#Plural_forms
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