Time to move off #Ubuntu has finally come. So many #Linux #distros to choose from, though. Makes my head spin I need one with:1. Great #driver support (maybe get that webcam working finally)2. Smooth & slick #UX / #UI (I'm less of a terminal guy)3. ...
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Time to move off #Ubuntu has finally come. So many #Linux #distros to choose from, though. Makes my head spin
I need one with:
1. Great #driver support (maybe get that webcam working finally)
2. Smooth & slick #UX / #UI (I'm less of a terminal guy)
3. Focus on #security, security-first approach (but not the ones that are made for James Bond)
What do you suggest? #AskFedi
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@smallcircles try Fedora or openSuse tumbleweed
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@smallcircles What do you have in mind for 3)?
Something like Qubes?
(I mean, I am using Debian with GNOME, and I am happy with it on all three fronts, but the third one is broad.)
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@neil
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think even James Bond would use QubesOS. Maybe Q, but not Bond. We're talking about an Ubuntu replacement here ^^'
As for my part, I'd say OpenSuse Tumbleweed or Fedora sound good. I assume you'd probably be more comfortable in Fedora @smallcircles, though they've also had one or two smaller differences in opinion with their userbase. On the plus side, Fedora's main desktop is also Gnome. -
@CollateralDamage @smallcircles I think it comes down to what is meant by a "security first approach", and against what threats one is trying to protect!
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@smallcircles maybe Linux Mint would suit? I have never used it, but I have a vague sense it might fit.
It's based on Ubuntu/Debian, so depending on why you're moving off Ubuntu that is good or bad! I've read people saying it keeps the good parts of Ubuntu and discards the rest.
I personally use arch with sway, and technically, for me, it meets the criteria you set out, but I don't think it's in the spirit you intend. Manjaro is a friendly arch.
Alternatively, maybe plain debian suits?
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@smallcircles Project Bluefin https://projectbluefin.io/. It’s been a revelation for me. #bluefin
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- Driver support is bound to a kernel, so distros with newer kernels are better.
- not terminal friendly? That means a major distro, so less DYI is needed
- good security is a trickier, but distros with a touch of enterprise focus are usually good on this
I would take Fedora or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
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@smallcircles Fedora comes to mind for 1 and 2 but is thrown off by 3. Where are you at on convenience vs security? How much convenience would you trade for a secure system? I could point you at OpenBSD (I know, not LInux) as an example but don't think it would be a good fit for 2.
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@smallcircles
Manjaro or Arch is my suggestion because:
1. Being rolling release (latest version of software)
2. Large community (is there is a problem, you are not alone in it and you can get help fast)
3. Very good driver support
4. Arch wiki (which applies to Manjaro) is the greatest resource
5. You choose the DE or WM
6. Manjaro comes with some GUI tools to manage your kernels and software -
@smallcircles I think one big factor is having up to date versions of everything vs having stable versions of everything. Both are nice goals, but kind of incompatible.
I pick the "up to date versions of everything" option with arch, and find the stability acceptable (I accept that everything *might* randomly break, but probably/hopefully won't).
Although often there is a way to get up to date versions of the *specific* things you need (e.g. nodejs, python... using mise et al.)
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@smallcircles Debian is always a good choice in my opinion, though there may be some work to get "slick" on the UI. I personally have switched to PopOS for cases where I want easy to use, while still being dpkg based and relatively ubuntu compatible on the application level. I haven't run into any showstoppers in the last few years in that regard.
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@zestygrass thank you. I will add those to the list of ones to look closer at.
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@smallcircles Unsure whether it satisfies your criteria, but I'm halfway through moving all my servers (and server/workstations) from Ubuntu to vanilla Debian. Chose that because it's the most minimal change, given that Ubuntu is built atop Debian. Debian has worked well for me so far, though it may lack the bells and whistles and UI polish you're looking for.
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@arcadetoken thank you. Just 'above average' attention to security, and slight inconvenience okay. I will add Fedora on my list, maybe take a quick peek at OpenBSD.
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@lavin thanks! Debian is on my list to investigate some more.
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@smallcircles Sounds good, OBSD is very "security at the expense of everything else" so expect difficulty using it. I wouldn't use it for a daily driver personally. Fedora can be nice. Debian is also pretty good once you get through the installation - there is some nice security in being a bit minimal due to reduced attack surface
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@smallcircles I would definitely say tumbleweed honestly the KDE version at the very least if you want Wayland stuff pretty concurrently. They have yast which takes away a lot of the need to use terminal. But you can use terminal for zypper dup to update if you want 
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@smallcircles
Talking about security you bring up the guy, who upon entering a room let's everyone know his real name? James Bond would probably prefer Windows 98. In 2024.