Quite some years ago, we brought the #OLPC AKA the 100$ laptop to Rwanda [1].
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Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer The ending of Red Hat's involvement in that project was also seemingly marked by the end of Red Hat trying to bring Linux to kids in general. It was really sad to me because if things had been different, Fedora might be the reference platform for the Raspberry Pi instead...
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: last edited by
@Conan_Kudo We continued to support Sugar on a stick for many years in the Fedora community. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sugar_on_a_Stick The main reason we didn’t became the default OS on the raspberry is that it isn’t really an open platform, IMHO.
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Debbyreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer The OLPC is a fascinating piece of engineering history.
I heard about a reflective technology you used to make the screen readable outdoors even without a backlight.Do you have more inside information on the screen technology?
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Debby last edited by [email protected]
@Debby It’s the Pixel Qi screen, invented by Mary Lou Jepsen and her team. And yes, it works as described. At the time we called it the transflexive display. You could (and can use it in bright sunlight, without backlight, as a rather high contrast greyscale display. You can also switch on the backlight to get better colours. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Qi and https://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
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Tobias Struckmeierreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer maybe it's time to revive it again? Cause nowadays hardware should be even cheaper and less energy consuming nor?
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Tobias Struckmeier last edited by
@cryptobiont The hardware never was the real problem of the project, IMHO.
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Tobias Struckmeierreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer I don't say it was a problem I just think it could maybe even be more effective?
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Maxime Ripardreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer @Conan_Kudo Not really, no. Any x86 machine is less open than a RaspberryPi, and I don't see Fedora having a problem with that.
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Matija Šukljereplied to Tobias Struckmeier last edited by
@cryptobiont @jwildeboer,
Harv Stanić Staalman (one of the people who also worked on/with OLPC, IIRC) has been working with a bunch of other people on a somewhat similar laptop for the last few years: https://balthazar.spaceI’m looking forward to his presentation (and hopefully live demo) in a few weeks at @kiberpipa_cyberpipe
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RealGene ☣️replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer
That's funny, the overly effusive Wikipedia page says it was, and is available as a snap-on accessory.So, like everything Nick Negroponte touches, it's just bullshit?
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to RealGene ☣️ last edited by
@RealGene I see you have a very negative opinion on the whole topic so I won't continue the discussion. I wanted to write a positive thread on the unexpected side effects we observed at the time. There are enough pages, videos and rants out there trying to dismiss the project as a whole.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by [email protected]
(as expected, the naysayers and opponents are now in the comments trying to turn my thread into negativity. As always. It's the internet Well, I still hope I could give some of you some positive food for thought on unintended, but fascinating effects that we observed many years ago when the project started.) 8/8
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Uckermark MacGyver :nonazi:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer this is awesome. Are you aware of a similar mesh networking technology that's still available for current day computers? Sounds like this should get much more attention from the OS community.
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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:replied to Matija Šuklje last edited by
@hook @cryptobiont @jwildeboer @kiberpipa_cyberpipe ooh that looks so cool and it's an @NGIZero funded project!
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Uckermark MacGyver :nonazi: last edited by
@maxheadroom It is based on the 802.11s standard which became integrated into 802.11 back in 2012. But the standard unfortunately was made ambiguous and complex to implement, IMHO. Because uncontrolled mesh networks are not really wanted by governments and other parties that prefer to be in control
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Maxime Ripard last edited by
@mripard The Raspberry Pi story is however one for a different post/thread, IMHO @Conan_Kudo
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idlestate's SDF liason acctreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
Maybe it didn't get widely deployed, but we had one. Perhaps it was a prototype.
Someone came up with the prank of handing out the laptops to all undergrads in the dev course with AC power supplies. All but one, that is. Then, to say oops, we've run out, and give that last student the hand crank.
I think a foot-powered charger was proposed but never made, though.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to idlestate's SDF liason acct last edited by
@idlestate Yes, they existed. But only as prototype. They were never part of an actual deployment, IIRC. The foot pedal thing also made it to prototype stage. What actually got used was a wind/solar, coupled with old car batteries, for example. And in many deployments stable power to charge was available. @RealGene
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Stewart Russellreplied to Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: last edited by
@Conan_Kudo @jwildeboer this was despite best efforts for the Open Technology group at Seneca College to build and maintain Fedora for the Raspberry Pi. Plenty support for the (then) Raspberry Pi foundation, little to none from Red Hat.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Stewart Russell last edited by
@scruss I am happy to discuss the Red Hat, Fedora and Raspberry Pi problem in a different thread. This one was supposed to be about the unintended side effects of deploying the OLPC back in 2008