"Trump owes his victory in great part to low-propensity voters of all races, including young men, and those voters don’t necessarily form their views based on mainstream media reporting.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Godfrey642 I veryt much agree.

William Lindsey :toad:

@MoiraEve Yes, so it seems to me.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Godfrey642 Thank you. I appreciate the hopefulness.

BronMason

@wdlindsy

That’s kinda what I mean, I have too much faith that most people can recognize bs when they hear it.

William Lindsey :toad:

@bronakins I agree.

fmc01

@wdlindsy Obviously the MSNBC audiences are too depressed to watch T V at the moment and - as for Fox - it keeps eating the brains, it keeps eating the hearts of the people who live in America. Fox seems to be an experiment by Rupert Murdoch to find out how malleable a lot of Americans are (and make money at the same time) - and Rupert is still digging …. digging ….digging.

Steve's Place

@wdlindsy These two groups have nothing to do with each other. The Fox audience is energized. The MSNBC audience, repeatedly warned that it was the end of democracy if Trump won, is busily engaged in stages of grief. They don't want to hear any more, especially from dire prognosticators.

The Fox audience is enjoying a Nazi/Russian/Klan get-together, and can't get enough of it. It's a party!

The MSNBC audience is dressed in black at a family-only funeral for a philosophy.

William Lindsey :toad:

@steter I think that's rather the point of John Koblin's article — that Fox and MSNBC have nothing to do with each other.

William Lindsey :toad:

@frankcat Well-stated. That sounds very right to me.

Steve's Place

@wdlindsy I don't subscribe to the paper on the other side of the continent that chased the POTUS I voted for out of office, the man who defeated Trump, to increase the likelihood that Trump would win again, and thus pad their corrupt wallets.

Not going to subscribe to read an article from a fountain of yellow journalism.

Nice to know I discerned what they wrote about. They can go to hell for what they've done.

William Lindsey :toad:

@steter I'm sorry, I seem to have lost the thread. Not sure what paper you're talking about. The only paper I've supported financially myself in lo these many years is The Guardian. I don't get my news from sites like MSNBC or from corporate media, and have no illusions about what those venues are like. I reported Josh Koblin's commentary not to promote any media outlet, but simply to note what he was saying about people now flocking from MSNBC to Fox.

Steve's Place

@wdlindsy Cool. If it was on the Guardian, I'd read it. The link was to the New York Times. I am not a subscriber. It has a paywall. I cannot read that article from that source. You seemed to think I missed the point or were unhappy I hadn't read it. That's all. Two ships passing in the night. Sorry to bother you.

William Lindsey :toad:

@steter Sorry I did not understand. I, too, do not subscribe to the New York Times. When I want to read an article there that someone else has promoted, I normally go to the Webpage Archive site. This article has been uploaded there and can be read without a subscription, bypassing the paywall:

archive.ph

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