"Trump owes his victory in great part to low-propensity voters of all races, including young men, and those voters don’t necessarily form their views based on mainstream media reporting.
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Godfrey642replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Thank you William.
As always your threads and commentary are well stated, impressive and thought provoking.
I just wish we weren't in such a dark place that we need them. -
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Jason Linkins responds to the truly astonishing — the very definition of blind hubris — belief of Washington Post's editorial team that they can lecture Democratic voters about "elitism" following this election. About Bezos, he says,
"The only successful way for a plutocrat to own a newspaper is for the Richie Rich in question to follow my two-step plan: Shut your mouth, and write those checks."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
It's elitist, you see, in the eyes of the lofty people occupying bully pulpits at Washington Post to think there's something shockingly inhumane about a plan to round of untold numbers of people, put them in camps, and ship them out of the country — just because. Because we want to pretend they're the problem.
Elitist to care about the human lives of those people and the barbarism of any nation cooking up such a scheme….
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
And while I'm talking about my contempt for Bezos, let me say a word about Los Angeles Times' Patrick Soon-Shiong, who has shown himself to be beyond contemptible. He thinks he can simultaneously virtue-signal about his refusal to endorse Kamala Harris by saying this was about her Gaza stance, and at the same time say his paper needs more right-wing journalists to "balance" its "liberal" views.
#Trump #fascism #disinformation #media
/14https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/13/media/la-times-harris-endorsement-gaza-war-editorial-board/index.html
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Does he think we're too stupid to see that the second assertion cancels out the first one, and that the obviously sincere assertion of the two is that he intends to "balance" his paper? Does he think we don't know he's a friend of Elon Musk?
Does Soon-Shiong have no shame at all?
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"In many ways, what Trump has done is expose the rot that has always plagued this country beneath the veneer of liberal democracy. When one looks at our plight in these terms, it becomes clearer what the Harris campaign was up against—and why the struggle for the future is all the more essential.
This is generational, not just of-the-moment."
~ Elliot Kirschner
#Trump #fascism #disinformation #democracy
/16https://elliotkirschner.substack.com/p/are-we-pointing-fingers
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Godfrey642 last edited by
@Godfrey642 Thank you so much for the encouragement. I'll admit to feeling bleak and depleted of energy these days — but I intend to keep trying, since so much is at stake. I think when they take total control of the federal government, we're going to see a total blackout of news coverage, insofar as they can accomplish this — e.g., people rounded up in large numbers, incarcerated, shipped out of the country, with no one able to follow and monitor this so we can see what's happening.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Godfrey642 last edited by
@Godfrey642 A very good question. An elderly friend in Germany contacted us before he was elected and asked, "Have large numbers of Americans just lost their minds?"
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@wdlindsy Very, very true! The rot has always been with us.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to BronMason last edited by
@bronakins Yes, you're right. And before the final (though the vote-counting isn't complete even now) numbers began to come in, I myself swallowed that landslide meme.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to the_blackwell_ninja last edited by
@the_blackwell_ninja Same here — same frustration.
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@MoiraEve I think that Keith Owens' commentary on that point (see /11 above) is really good. He says that Democrats have to learn to be loud in pushing back against MAGA loudness. And, of course, he doesn't mean actually shouting loudness, but speaking as forcefully and convincingly back to MAGA as MAGA speaks to all of us.
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@MoiraEve From the outset of the flawed Democratic experiment that placed all power in the hands of white property-owning males.
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Godfrey642replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Yes.
Tho journalists will find other ways.
Independent underground outlets if MSM is silenced.
Don't give up hope.
It'll be rocky but maybe USA needs this dark period to realise the sham of right wing politics. MAGAs will only realise when it directly affects them and their loved ones. That's yet to come. -
@wdlindsy Democracy may be flawed, but it’s better than all the other experiments that have been tried.
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Godfrey642replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Yes.
They have. This is large scale national brain washing.And a huge appetite for cheap ugly sensationalism à la Jerry Springer. Baying for the blood and demise of others they consider ppl-not-like-them
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RogueDharmaBumreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Everything else I agree with but this misses the mark.
The problem isn't that there are no jobs, it's that the jobs are awful. The stock market only tangibly affects rich people(talk about 402ks and I'll respond with articles about how useless 401ks are) and inflation slowing down isn't good enough. The prices are too high and companies aren't raising wages.
Will Trump solve any of these? No, but those are the problems.
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BronMasonreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I cannot figure out what happened (I know trump happened).
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🇺🇸My Head’s Exploding🤯replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy This is a part of the MAGAts that drives me bonkers. You can’t even have a conversation/ discussion/ debate with the majority without having to scream your head off.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 🇺🇸My Head’s Exploding🤯 last edited by
@leswarden Yes, that's so true. And when people feel the need to scream other people down, what they're really saying is that they recognize the position they're pushing is weak. This has long been apparent to me with the "pro-life" folks. If they really have a moral position to push, why the need to coerce and silence others? The minute you take that route, what you're admitting is you're not promoting a morally sound cause at all.
