"Trump owes his victory in great part to low-propensity voters of all races, including young men, and those voters don’t necessarily form their views based on mainstream media reporting.
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bouriquetreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Given post-election events, there is a loss of hope for rule of law or hope that Donald Trump will go to prison for his numerous crimes against the people of the United States.
We have collectively let ourselves down, hoping that the story would end like a Hollywood movie. Instead, we are viewing the prelude to a dystopian nightmare, undoing of efforts in 1776 to 1783. Great empires fail, but by popular choice? Not till now. We need a mental break, not talking heads. -
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@wdlindsy I have not flocked to Fox. I just have shut everything down on cable. I was never a Fox viewer, except sports, and will never be a Fox viewer. I have no interest in listening to any MSM BS.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to [email protected] last edited by
@clane22 I, too, have never listened to Fox News, and I obtain news from sites other than MSM media sites. I doubt Josh Koblin is saying that everyone has flocked to Fox News.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to bouriquet last edited by
@bouriquet I agree.
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@MoiraEve For sure. Well-stated.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
" Politics is an entirely new game now that has little to do with right and wrong – or at least far less so than it did before.
It’s all about making the public believe what you’re saying, and this time, the majority of Americans chose to believe MAGA. MAGA is better at making itself believable to more people, as hard as it is to digest and believe."
~ Keith Owens
#Trump #fascism #disinformation
/11We Are Losing a War of Words
It doesn't matter if we're right, we have to be heard. And then believed.
(wearespeaking.substack.com)
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Jonathan Kamensreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
A movement untethered from reality always has more populist appeal exactly because it is free to say whatever will be most convincing, regardless of whether it's true.
The Democrats are handicapped by the fact that they're at least trying to be honest.
People have always been stupid and lacked critical thinking skills, but the addictiveness and persuasiveness of big tech has worsened the problem.
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@wdlindsy Yes, this is a more cynical, more sardonic-tone loving, more pessimistic crowd and that’s the way trump appealed to them.
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@MoiraEve So it seems to me, too.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Jonathan Kamens last edited by
@jik Yes, good commentary. I agree.
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@wdlindsy I hope we don’t have to adopt that tone to appeal more to them. I think it’s unhealthy. I don’t know the solution to this. I’m looking to experts in this area such as Dan Pfeiffer.
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@wdlindsy tbh that's been the case for at least a decade now, and it frustrates me to no end.
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BronMasonreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Sadly the storyline that was set in concrete by the media (reinforced by trump’s claim the following day) is that 2024 was a LANDSLIDE for Trump.
Harris’ early concession maybe helped cement the case, but that’s the Democratic way, so I can’t fault them. (IMO we don’t owe good sportsmanship to maga bad sports. I say concede but only after all the votes are counted.)
There’s only 45 million registered as Democrats so Dems need alot of votes from others to win.
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Godfrey642replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
It is a sad and deeply unpalatable truth that a sizable number of Trump-adoring Americans are gullible, unkind, lacking in compassion, unempathetic, amoral, judgemental, delusional, belligerent in word and deed and just don't give a damn about their compatriots.Where does that leave the citizens of the rest of the world?
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Godfrey642replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Thank you William.
As always your threads and commentary are well stated, impressive and thought provoking.
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Jason Linkins responds to the truly astonishing — the very definition of blind hubris — belief of Washington Post's editorial team that they can lecture Democratic voters about "elitism" following this election. About Bezos, he says,
"The only successful way for a plutocrat to own a newspaper is for the Richie Rich in question to follow my two-step plan: Shut your mouth, and write those checks."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
It's elitist, you see, in the eyes of the lofty people occupying bully pulpits at Washington Post to think there's something shockingly inhumane about a plan to round of untold numbers of people, put them in camps, and ship them out of the country — just because. Because we want to pretend they're the problem.
Elitist to care about the human lives of those people and the barbarism of any nation cooking up such a scheme….
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
And while I'm talking about my contempt for Bezos, let me say a word about Los Angeles Times' Patrick Soon-Shiong, who has shown himself to be beyond contemptible. He thinks he can simultaneously virtue-signal about his refusal to endorse Kamala Harris by saying this was about her Gaza stance, and at the same time say his paper needs more right-wing journalists to "balance" its "liberal" views.
#Trump #fascism #disinformation #media
/14LA Times owner says Harris’ stance on Gaza war contributed to non-endorsement, plans editorial board revamp | CNN Business
In an interview with CNN, Soon-Shiong stated publicly for the first time that Harris’ support for Israel’s war in Gaza played a role in his decision to block the endorsement and said he plans to “balance” the paper’s opinion page with more conservative and centrist voices.
CNN (www.cnn.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Does he think we're too stupid to see that the second assertion cancels out the first one, and that the obviously sincere assertion of the two is that he intends to "balance" his paper? Does he think we don't know he's a friend of Elon Musk?
Does Soon-Shiong have no shame at all?
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"In many ways, what Trump has done is expose the rot that has always plagued this country beneath the veneer of liberal democracy. When one looks at our plight in these terms, it becomes clearer what the Harris campaign was up against—and why the struggle for the future is all the more essential.
This is generational, not just of-the-moment."
~ Elliot Kirschner