Another idea I'm playing with: a fediverse starter pack.
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Stefan Bohacekreplied to Erin Kissane last edited by [email protected]
@kissane Yes, this is a very good point and I may have not given it enough thought. I was looking at this project more as if I was writing an article where I link to an interesting website, or a blogroll listing my favorite blogs.
I will admit I wouldn't necessarily think to ask for permission in those cases -- not that I shouldn't, of course, but you are giving me a lot to think about.
Either way, I did add a note about this to the project's README.
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@stefan I mean, it's a weird thing, I think, to want opt-outs for off-site list? But maybe not a bad one.
It probably wouldn't have occurred to me if I hadn't been following the discussions on Bsky (and on here, about what counts as permission, etc.)
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@stefan I think going via webfinger is your answer: once you've resolved the Actor, fetch the Actor, instead of relying on Mastodon's account API. That said, you may need some minimal actor through which to sign those requests.
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@kissane Honestly, I find the topic of consent on the web fascinating, particularly some of these "edge cases".
Were I better writer, this is a topic I would probably choose to explore further.
(Or maybe I can explore it anyway and write about it poorly? I suppose that is an option!)
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@thisismissem Well the issue is, if I have a username as @ user @ domain.com, I would think to hit the domain.com server, but at lest in the one particular case, this will not work, I seem to need to access it at subdomain.domain.com?
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or maybe the server is not set up right?
Let me DM you details, if you're interested.
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@stefan if the user is @ user @ domain.com then the webfinger endpoint should absolutely be resolvable on domain.com — it's just the mastodon specific API for "account lookup" would be on an alternative URL.
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@stefan and email or chat (discord/matrix) is a better way to reach me at the moment. But I probably won't reply until the morning; dealing with an upset stomach & getting ready for bed.
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Erin Kissanereplied to Stefan Bohacek last edited by [email protected]
@stefan My advice for thoughtful people who feel weird about writing (everyone feels weird about writing) is always "Write an email about it to a friend—*in* your email program, to fool your brain—snip the name off the top and cut any in-jokes, and you have a fine draft."
Which is to say: Write it, Stefan!
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@kissane Definitely thinking about it now, thank you for the encouragement!
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Stefan Bohacekreplied to Andy Nortrup :cascadia: 🌳 last edited by
@andy @glitchdotcom @eleventy Thank you, and thanks for sharing this!
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@stefan @glitchdotcom @eleventy This is really cool. I think there’s so much that can be done with this. It might be useful to offer a CSV file to download that people can mass import so they don’t need to click every single link.
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@stefan @glitchdotcom @eleventy (That avoids the need to login.)
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@ernie @glitchdotcom @eleventy Interesting idea, let me look into that!
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@stefan @glitchdotcom @eleventy You would have to emphasize the importance of “merge” instead of “overwrite” in whatever you do, since the import is pretty close to a destructive action.
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I’ve seen this on other welcome to madto things and it really bothers me:
Stop suggesting people join mastodon.social
SO MANY other instances (including mine) have it either limited or outright blocked because it’s so badly moderated, that a newbie is going to have such a skewed view. And so many newbies fall off and onto other platforms like bluesky because that’s easier than switching instances.
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@ernie @glitchdotcom @eleventy Luckily that seems to be the default, but definitely worth stressing this, thank you!
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@Alien_Sunset Very fair point, and typically I avoid that, but I've been having some thoughts about the whole "too hard to pick a server" thing recently and how to best address that.
I won't get into it much here, but for the time being, I'm just going to switch out the link for instances.social.
Thank you for calling this out!
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@tom I think I'm just going to keep things simple for the time being.
I think having the field to put in your home server on the page helps already. And it's saved for your next visit!
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Julian Fietkaureplied to Stefan Bohacek last edited by
@stefan Nice work!
Your demo kicked off a conversation in the WeDistribute Matrix room, where it turns out a number of people have also been working on similar things. (My own design notes look like this: https://stuff.jfietkau.me/starter-packs) Some of us are now trying to maybe join forces. -
Stefan Bohacekreplied to Julian Fietkau last edited by
@julian Thank you!
Very detailed notes, and some things I've also been thinking about as well!
And thanks for notifying me, I will have to catch up on there.
