Should YouTube federate?
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@evan you forgot "it's up to them"
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Thibault Molleman🇧🇪 🌈🐝 last edited by
@thibaultmol you're free to skip the poll.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Mark Darbyshire last edited by
@markdarb can you imagine any conditions where it would be beneficial to them?
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Joseph Szymborski :qcca: last edited by
@jszym you can't imagine any situation where it would be beneficial to YouTube to federate?
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@nlupo we are allowed to have other choices.
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@CartyBoston it's ok to tell companies what they should do.
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Nelson Chu Pavloskyreplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
@evan Qualified yes. They should support open standards, but without some sort of accountability, they could remove it at any time, or pervert any federation to harm the fediverse... It would be foolish to rely on it in the current climate. Perhaps some government mandate, like the adversarial interoperability Cory Doctorow has proposed?
Also their moderation is so bad that it's been radicalizing people into Nazis, so federation might make fedi more Nazi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right_pipeline
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Nelson Chu Pavlosky last edited by
@skyfaller "pervert any federation to harm the fediverse"?
What is that supposed to mean?
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Joseph Szymborski :qcca:replied to Evan Prodromou last edited by [email protected]
@evan if there was a fragmented ecosystem of video platforms with comparable user share, or of YouTube was losing user growth, then yes.
I don't think that scenario is a foregone conclusion, but I don't see it happening without Alphabet totally fumbling the ball worse than it did during the adpocalypse, or without a large grassroots movement.
I think if you see that in the platforms that have turned on or promise to turn on AP (Threads, Tumblr, Flipboard) vs those that haven't (X, FB, Reddit)
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
Interesting results. I'm a strong yes. It's a social publishing service with subscriptions, likes, and comments. It fits really well into the Fediverse model.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
An awful lot of people got mad that this could never happen and it wasn't worth talking about.
First, we talk about fictional things all the time. It's fun and harmless.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by [email protected]
Second, it's pretty clear to me why YouTube would federate.
One reason is if the Fediverse was larger than YouTube, it would be advantageous. With 2.5B MAUs on YouTube, I think we have a long way to go before we outnumber them. But maybe not forever.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
The other reason is if regulators required it.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
Thanks to everyone who answered and commented.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
Oh, I nearly forgot: a lot of people thought the culture and ads on YouTube would be bad for existing Fediverse users.
Which, like, it's really easy to block a server if you don't want to interact with them. We have the technology.