me: why the hell is this "unified bundle" 3MB (unzipped)?
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@slightlyoff that is....horrifying
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@konnorrogers I mean, only if you know what computers can do and want to do a good job for users?
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@slightlyoff on an ecommerce site of all places?! Thats borderline negligent...and a failure of leadership to prioritize users over each team getting their own little sandbox. I imagine plenty of perf testing people in house have brought up the issue. But leadership either doesn't care, or doesn't have enough power to make change.
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@konnorrogers It's at least malpractice.
Like many of these teams I got called in to chat with, the "new guy" had fired all the byte-miser old guard for not jumping at the opportunity to ruin the site with JS ("not team players").
The JS-industrial-complex is nothing if not adept at muscling out those who dare speak up for the user.
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@slightlyoff This entire thread needed a content warning
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@jaredwhite "TW: `view-source:` content"
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@slightlyoff If you want to get nervous, check out #Oakley's website: https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-oakley-com/vmod5pnwqy?form_factor=mobile - they are notoriously bad at #webperf.
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@niutech *10 seconds* TBT!?!!!
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@slightlyoff @konnorrogers @paulshryock I’ve worked on a site like this and it did scale better than the monolith that existed before it. Not to mention a lot of work went into the user flow so most users rarely saw more than one slice of those pages anyway.
Could they have built something better? Sure. Was an e-commerce site going to attract leadership that would drive things that way and hire the talent to do so? Probably not.
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Alex Russellreplied to Joe last edited by [email protected]
@threetonesun @konnorrogers @paulshryock A lot of managers I interact with talk about "scale" and "hiring" and "monoliths" like this, and what they really mean is "we don't want to care".
Even when outstanding people are offered up on a platter, they turn them down because of the dogma. "The scary monolith" is code for "something I won't get credit for spending huge amounts to replace".
Performance is about mastery, and a lot of folks just don't want to bother. We should call it what it is.
