I'm amused by several things about https://freeourfeeds.com/ the "free ATProto" campaign but not the least of which is that the preview image fetched for that page looks like the Diaspora* logo

[raphael@mastodon.communick.com]

@cwebber @doktorzjivago @eloquence

Even the Bluesky lead developers do not know how they are going to dig out of their own hole without becoming something resembling AP: https://mastodon.communick.com/@raphael/113796033637861505

[mayintoronto@mstdn.ca]

@cwebber What they're trying to do here seems to overlap with what Spritely wants to do. Perhaps there's a way you can get this org to fund your work (and more hands) if they have the ability to fundraise that much?

At the minimum, your voice is critical.

[cwebber@social.coop]

@MayInToronto Well, mainly... my voice is stretched thin. I'd love to have more help fundraising for Spritely. But I've said all I have to say about ATProto really. I got invited tto give a talk about ATProto recently at an event the Bluesky folks were also speaking at and I declined. I don't want to focus on ATProto... I don't have that much more to say about it. I'm focused on the future-facing stuff we're doing at Spritely.

But yeah if anyone wants to help with fundraising... I'm interested

[cwebber@social.coop]

@MayInToronto Part of the reason I declined is I didn't want to sit at an event and be "the ATProto/Bluesky naysayer". I've given my analysis, and people can find it pretty easily. If I stood up and spoke further, I'd feel like I was being negative unnecessarily, and I don't want that.

Right now I'm interested in building! And the stuff Spritely is doing is fairly differently-shaped than what ATProto is doing. We've got a lot of work to do.

[risottobias@tech.lgbt]

@cwebber I think that's mostly down to your blog posts being dense (literally) and slightly advanced reading.

then again they should know better and be able to read dense highly technical stuff.

[travisfw@fosstodon.org]

@cwebber @MayInToronto I write Kotlin. How can I help @spritely ?

[cwebber@social.coop]

@travisfw @MayInToronto @spritely Hi! Thanks for your interest!

Well, of course you could learn Scheme and help contribute directly!

https://files.spritely.institute/papers/scheme-primer.html
https://files.spritely.institute/papers/spritely-core.html

Or you could port our protocol, OCapN, to Kotlin!

GitHub - ocapn/ocapn: General planning and documentation repository for the OCapN protocol suite for distributed networked objects

General planning and documentation repository for the OCapN protocol suite for distributed networked objects - ocapn/ocapn

GitHub (github.com)

[travisfw@fosstodon.org]

@cwebber @MayInToronto @spritely
I'd love to try porting the protocol if people are on hand to help. Where is the best place to ask questions?

[cwebber@social.coop]

@travisfw @MayInToronto @spritely Are you on irc.libera.chat? #ocapn or #spritely

[eubiedrew@spore.social]

@cwebber

This begs the question:
What do they find so frustrating about the fediverse (Which would be far cheaper to fund and easier to influence), that they would forgo putting their efforts in the ActivityPub direction.

Is it simply that Bluesky is 10 times bigger and growing faster? An important factor, I have to admit.

[cwebber@social.coop]

@EubieDrew that's the one