I went to maybe a dozen coffee shops in Berlin and have to admit that coffee in random So Cal coffee shops is better and I'm surprised I'm saying this because I didn't expect that.
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Scott Williams 🐧wrote last edited by [email protected]
I went to maybe a dozen #coffee shops in Berlin and have to admit that coffee in random So Cal coffee shops is better and I'm surprised I'm saying this because I didn't expect that. Most coffee shops in Berlin that I went to just served espresso drinks from a fully automatic machine. I did have some legit good coffee in Berlin, too, but that was more at restaurants than coffee shops.
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Scott Williams 🐧replied to Scott Williams 🐧 last edited by
The last time I was in Europe was 20 years ago and then the coffee I had was just pretty well universally better than American coffee. American coffee has gotten much, much better in that time (and I'm not talking about Starbucks..). There were fully automatic machines when I was there 20 years ago (in Ireland and UK) but mostly just at convenience store type shops and not in "coffee shops". Not sure how much is different there now vs Berlin, other parts of Berlin, or the rest of Germany.
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@vwbusguy if you still have time there, download the European Coffee Trip app, they list good specialty coffee shops around Europe I haven’t found one in the app that doesn’t sell good coffee (though I’ve never been to SoCal so I can’t compare)
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Scott Williams 🐧replied to Eduardo last edited by [email protected]
@edraac Generally, in So Cal, a coffee shop is going to sell some kind of specialty coffee and that's either self-roasted or the roster is prominently displayed, because there's so much market competition.
Outside of the West Coast the older American "coffee shop" concept is really a "diner" that is a restaurant that smells like cigarettes and sells the worst coffee imaginable. Definitely still worth going for the experience of it, but set your expectations very low for the coffee quality .