Serious question: Is anyone making a list of where it may be possible to purchase a *new* car that isn't just spyware on wheels?
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@briankrebs pretty much have to get a dedicated sports car (Ariel Atom!), or do a build from something older (early Miata?).
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So "no" seems to be the answer. Fuck it. Good excuse to get a fully restored Camaro from the 60s or 70s or something.
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@briankrebs Yea, I'm honestly thinking about picking up an early/mid-90s sedan for exactly that reason.
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S. G. Tallentyre (🤨 ┻━┻)replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
If you're gonna go that far, which is awesome, you might as well get one from before noise/emissions regulations were a thing so that it's grandfathered. Look it up for yourself and don't take my word for it, but I wanna say it was 1972. Anyway, just get one that's at least that old, remove the muffler entirely, annoy people. Legally. That's what I'd do, anyway, lol.
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@briankrebs this might be the only correct answer
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Fringed Crow :battery_ok:replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
@briankrebs that's my plan. Any car from the 60's/70's without all this damn tech in it. Easy to work on, inexpensive parts.
I don't need my breaks failing because my low beam went out! /s
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BrianKrebsreplied to Fringed Crow :battery_ok: last edited by
@Fringedcrow Also probably still works after an EMP. Just sayin
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@briankrebs That's right up there with the question "where do I buy a printer these days that doesn't suck?".
Also, it's one of the reasons why I don't have a car.
Sorry for not being able to help.
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"the area commute this morning became much more complicated as a malware attack caused all smart cars to play bumper cars with each other. there were further delays as self driving car removal vehicles were affected and joined in."
SF/cyberpunk is going to be joining satire sites like the onion in struggling to come up with ideas more bizarre than reality.
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@briankrebs We have two 2018 cars at our house because that's as recent as we could get something that wasn't entirely stealing our data. We still debated removing the sim card from the one car, but my mazda is real decent - physical controls for everything, carplay, and no tracking. Kind of amazing tbh. I'll be real upset when I have to upgrade in a decade.
Anyway, I suggest used cars, removing a sim, or maybe surrounding the head unit in foil or something as a faraday cage. It's such a dumpster fire.
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David Penfold :verified:replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
@briankrebs A Toyota Hilux will still work after the heat death of the universe.
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@briankrebs Do what I have. Buy a car that is 24 years old and keep it up. My 2000 RAV4 runs great. It’s pretty too.
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@briankrebs Depending on the manufacturer you could probably go as new as mid-2010's. The mid level German Luxury sedans for example have been fairly slow to bring in "phone home" tech in their more basic trims.
I would also be curious to know how difficult it would be to find and remove the SIM card from some of the newer cars and what functionality do you lose once you do so.
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@briankrebs We got a car a few years ago that tried to upsell us on Apple Carplay. We chose the car because of being able to say no to that, and also it has an actual manual button remote. It still has a modem though...
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I Thought I Saw A 2 :donor:replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
@briankrebs As long as it's a bitchin' one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3CzvQ9e_w
