Serious question: Is anyone making a list of where it may be possible to purchase a *new* car that isn't just spyware on wheels?
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Brad Rubenstein “:verified:”replied to BrianKrebs last edited by [email protected]
For all the suggestions about disabling a new car's spyware access, would the resulting vehicle even be insurable?
I mean, of course you could buy insurance. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were a clause in the fine print that voided claims against a vehicle that had been hacked thusly.
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@briankrebs and there's this https://youtu.be/_LXKZq0fYDw
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do publish what you find.
i went with "don't get rid of your current one". have a 2015 and 2005 vehicle for our household.
i'm lucky in that we are very low mileage (32k and 85k respectively) so they have plenty of life left.
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The Dacia Spring is very minimalistic in its features and has a Button to disable online services (at least inside Europe). However the "pre-facelift" version does not have this button.
That might have changed with the 2024 version though.
Ultimately it is probably impossible to get a car without any data connection, especially since features like E-Call are now required.
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@briankrebs pretty much have to get a dedicated sports car (Ariel Atom!), or do a build from something older (early Miata?).
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So "no" seems to be the answer. Fuck it. Good excuse to get a fully restored Camaro from the 60s or 70s or something.
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@briankrebs Yea, I'm honestly thinking about picking up an early/mid-90s sedan for exactly that reason.
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S. G. Tallentyre (🤨 ┻━┻)replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
If you're gonna go that far, which is awesome, you might as well get one from before noise/emissions regulations were a thing so that it's grandfathered. Look it up for yourself and don't take my word for it, but I wanna say it was 1972. Anyway, just get one that's at least that old, remove the muffler entirely, annoy people. Legally. That's what I'd do, anyway, lol.
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@briankrebs this might be the only correct answer
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Fringed Crow :battery_ok:replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
@briankrebs that's my plan. Any car from the 60's/70's without all this damn tech in it. Easy to work on, inexpensive parts.
I don't need my breaks failing because my low beam went out! /s
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BrianKrebsreplied to Fringed Crow :battery_ok: last edited by
@Fringedcrow Also probably still works after an EMP. Just sayin
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@briankrebs That's right up there with the question "where do I buy a printer these days that doesn't suck?".
Also, it's one of the reasons why I don't have a car.
Sorry for not being able to help.
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"the area commute this morning became much more complicated as a malware attack caused all smart cars to play bumper cars with each other. there were further delays as self driving car removal vehicles were affected and joined in."
SF/cyberpunk is going to be joining satire sites like the onion in struggling to come up with ideas more bizarre than reality.
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@briankrebs We have two 2018 cars at our house because that's as recent as we could get something that wasn't entirely stealing our data. We still debated removing the sim card from the one car, but my mazda is real decent - physical controls for everything, carplay, and no tracking. Kind of amazing tbh. I'll be real upset when I have to upgrade in a decade.
Anyway, I suggest used cars, removing a sim, or maybe surrounding the head unit in foil or something as a faraday cage. It's such a dumpster fire.
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David Penfold :verified:replied to BrianKrebs last edited by
@briankrebs A Toyota Hilux will still work after the heat death of the universe.
