I want to look into #degoogleing my #email.
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I want to look into #degoogleing my #email.
Does anyone have opinions on #protonmail vs #fastmail?
Ty!
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@xavier_hm Fastmail is standard email - you can use any email client, you can back-up, export and import easily. But that means that their servers can read your email at any time. Proton is encrypted by their email clients, which on one hand means their servers can't see email contents except when receiving them, but which also means you can't use any other clients (e.g. Apple Mail) and that search is less powerful. And anyway if you're sending email to or receiving it from Gmail or Outlook, it could be scanned on that side.
IMO there isn't a big practical difference in security and privacy as long as you're not a high-profile target. Proton is theoretically more difficult to get access to your data, but in practice the adversary could use an exploit on your phone/device or force-feed you a cracked client that neutralizes encryption or something.
Personally I am on Fastmail but I think either is fine and neither is perfect (or perfectly secure).
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@xavier_hm protonmail on the free variant is hard to migrate from.
if you buy your own domain, and pay them the monthly fee, it's pretty nice to have someone else manage the infra for an email.
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Haven't tried Fastmail, but before I moved to #SelfHosting my email, I used #ProtonMail and found it quite nice. Bear in mind you can't hook up a client like #ThunderBird easily and still have it be encrypted, but if you don't mind webmail (or a lot of tinkering) it's a good solution.
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Whiskers The Great and Terriblereplied to pizza in 7 days last edited by
@risottobias @xavier_hm I’m a protonmail user too. Love them, wouldn’t use anyone else right now
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pizza in 7 daysreplied to Whiskers The Great and Terrible last edited by [email protected]
@phil @xavier_hm I think if your threat model is extra EU-ey, sure
I personally just end up running things in porkbun, hover, my own VPS (mailu or stalwart), or I guess I'd try fastmail
not having a native SMTP client option and having to bridge is kinda a bummer for protonmail, plus never being able to forward if you use an @ protonmail address - vs using your own domain