@liamvhogan hi liam question for you. what conceptions of justice are relevant to decision making in australian state public sectors, in your view?
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@liamvhogan hi liam question for you. what conceptions of justice are relevant to decision making in australian state public sectors, in your view?
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@thom I’d draw a distinction between administrative decision making (does this person get their entitlement) and policy decision making (how shall we work toward which goals).
In both I think equity, or call it comparative justice is chief, which is why you see groups work so hard to frame themselves as being ‘unfairly’ treated. But genuinely distributive justice that’s testable by numbers doesn’t enter much
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@thom is that what you mean?
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@liamvhogan yes thank you. i thought you might also have some eccentric idea about any fundamental injustices in the way we make administrative decisions
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@thom oh for administrative decisions Australia is absolutely procedure-sick. We are obsessed with being able to show that we came to a decision in the correct manner that will pass an audit, irrespective of what the decision actually is (because we have this fixed logic that a well-considered decision will be a right one). Anyone who’s been subject to such a process knows that’s not true but we have it anyway.
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@thom the fascinating exception to this is the resistance in sport to video refereeing (the ‘bunker’ in RL, football’s VAR, goal video in AFL). The numbers show that it producers righter decisions and fewer errors. But! Fans rightly perceive it as slowing down the game and providing no real superiority of decision making, and even players mostly prefer an arbitrary referee’s decision, even if it doesn’t go their way, because they know faster arbitrariness can feel fairer, even if objectively wronger