The harder I work the less I'm paid

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True. If you get yourself an interesting skill set, either your employer will pay accordingly or you won’t have difficulty finding one that does.

The entire video game industry would love a word.

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I found this to be true too. 16 years old minimum wage supermarket job: had to work every second of the shift and was micromanaged to hell.

Now a professional engineer earning almost 10 times minimum wage and I have to pace myself so that I don't run out of work during the 3 days I'm in the office, followed by 2 days WFH where I rarely have any work left to do.

Quazatron

I'd argue that the skills required to work in the videogame industry are easily repurposed for other IT or creative jobs.

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In theory, yes.

I've painted myself into a corner with the skills I've acquired. The job isnt common so the few of us in these roles have to leave completely in order for a vacancy to open up.

In theory I have transferable skills, but in a job that's more common there will be more people with those exact skills competing for those roles. So by comparison, I become a risky hire in a sea of perfectly qualified candidates.

You'd think this means my "lucrative skills" are fairly compensated, but I assure you they are not. If I don't get a raise and I complain, they remind me that I can leave if I'm not happy.

It's in my nature to work hard regardless of my salary or working conditions, so I'll never "quiet quit" or "act my wage", but I understand why a lot of people do.

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When I got paid minimum wage to work at a grocery store, I certainly didn't give it 100% every day. They paid me minimum wage because they wanted to pay me less, but the law wouldn't let them. Why should I stress myself out for a job like that? Of course I shouldn't, and it didn't bother my bosses that it took it easy on a regular basis.

The same general principle applies to other jobs as well. If you're fairly low on the totem pole and some the big problem comes up that could affect the company in a major way, you'd be out of your mind to try to tackle it yourself. They don't pay you enough to risk your job to tackle it yourself. It's your boss or your boss's problem.

zerozaku

This is not a shower thought but ok ig

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I mean, yeah, that's the American dream. I get six figures and work like maybe 3 hours a day on a busy day. When I was 16 I was washing dishes for $5 an hour and it was 8+ hours of constant, hard work, every fucking day

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I’d argue that the skills required to work in the videogame industry are easily repurposed for other IT or creative jobs.

I know dozens of people who've been looking for over a year, for anything in the software field. The issue is companies would rather hire a kid straight out of school than pay for someone with experience. I'm in a discord channel of people (from the last place I worked at that has now gone bankrupt) and the vast majority are still without a job. Most are going outside the industry into the standbys (food service, warehouse, etc). My linkedin was so depressing, post after post about people who used to be engineers I worked with now getting hurt working in Amazon Fulfillmment centres, I just stopped going there and use discord/indeed for job searching. I'm really close with the QA team from my last job, and all but one of them have moved back in with their parents.

It is fucking bleak in software right now.

The tech layoff wave is still going strong in 2024. Following significant workforce reductions in 2022 and 2023, this year has more than 130,000 job cuts across 457 companies, according to independent layoffs tracker Layoffs.fyi. Companies like Tesla, Amazon, Google, TikTok, Snap and Microsoft have conducted sizable layoffs in the first months of 2024. Smaller-sized startups have also seen a fair amount of cuts, and in some cases, have shut down operations altogether.

Not sure where people think everyone is going to go; there are more closures than job openings.

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"Act your wage" is just a poor excuse to normalize laziness.

You have to leave some in the tank. It's real easy to breeze into work 20 minutes late with no consequences, sit in an air conditioned office while sitting around shooting the shit for 5/8 hours pretending to be in a meeting, send some emails and go home.

Working for 8+ hours straight on your feet is a different story. You still have to go home and perform domestic tasks like cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, laundry, yard work, kids. There's also a good chance you will have mandatory overtime on certain industries.

Not only that, but work smarter, not harder.

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Oh boy. That's what I like to see after a year unemployed from software.

sunzu2

Yeah but in order to get a job like that your either need to be a nepo baby or you actually need to have a skill that is in demand enough to where it is cheaper to keep you around despite not squeezimg every minute of work.

And only way to get there is to spend some serious time on studying and working hard.

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I wish you the best, I'm looking outside software in general. I used to offer to help people find employment in games but now I just can't. I've seen too many people broken by it.

I do hope you find something, anything, so you can continue to survive.

TheDonkerZ

Even then, you need to have 10+ years of workplace experience coming out of school. The standards have been lifted to nearly unattainable heights for things that people with less qualifications would've gotten 30 years ago.

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Sixteen Tons. Another day older and deeper in debt.

GHiLA

Maybe he installs showers for a living.

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Yeah, I was adjacent to the game industry for a minute and am aware of how much churn business execs force on developers. Good luck yourself in your search

2ugly2live

I make the most I've ever made in my adult life and I am doing the least I've ever done in my adult life. Checks out.

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Funny, a variation of this song came on my Pandora station immediately after I read this comment.

Queen HawlSera

Sometimes I think about American Beauty. I love that film, but I always have to warn people that it's the "Best movie that aged horribly."

(I mean except for the films like Dazed and Confused which were intended to be contemporary, but are so of their time that they accidentally made a period piece)

There's just so many reasons why it doesn't line up with reality. (First time I saw it I laughed at the idea of "secret government weed" in a film that wasn't a stoner comedy, and the fact that they cast a busty actress for the girl who wants a boobjob and a not-so-busty one for the one who doesn't.. Which I guess could work as commentary, but the way the movie plays it not so much.), but two that really stand out

Kevin Spacey playing a man who not-so-secretly longs for his (teenage) daughter's (underage) friend in a lustful manner
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and is finally able to court her near the climax of the film. (To be fair, he realizes what he's doing is wrong and doesn't go through with it)
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At one point, after realizing he isn't happy working hard for an American Dream he has grown bored of quits his job. This is fresh on the heels of the realization that he can maintain his lifestyle (Suburban house, husband and wife have their own car, only one member of the household works) by working a stress-free no responsibility job as a McDonalds Fry Cook.

Honestly the second one is far more shocking and offensive.

Queen HawlSera

Heck I'm just the janitor for a wealthy company and for the first time it's a gig where I don't hate everyone and everything because of my job.

I still hate everyone and everything, but that has more to do with my pay than the work involved.