also i texted the apartment owner today and asked them if they are going to send me documents that prove that they actually own the place, just in case, and they said that they will only show them before signing up the rent agreement and that feels kin...
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also i texted the apartment owner today and asked them if they are going to send me documents that prove that they actually own the place, just in case, and they said that they will only show them before signing up the rent agreement and that feels kinda off to me. am i being too paranoid or
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tillian (returning soon)replied to tillian (returning soon) last edited by
what am i supposed to do then
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Psy Chuan :therian:replied to tillian (returning soon) last edited by
@mynameistillian what do you mean "before signing the rent agreement"? will you be legally on the hook for anything at that point?
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Riley S. Faelanreplied to tillian (returning soon) last edited by
@mynameistillian Years ago, when I lived in Poland for a short while for a project, I found out that the landlady didn't actually formally own the place when I went to the town hall to register my stay. Her daughter was the formal owner. I later learnt that the discrepancy was probably deliberate, to prevent me from registering the stay, so that the Tax Office wouldn't be able to (easily) detect that they had rental income. When the landlady learnt that I had gone to the civil register, she threatened to evict me, but the process would have been slow enough for me to leave the country anyway, so she didn't bother, and I don't know if the Tax Office finally figured it out.
Sadly, the commonness of this sort of machinations contribute to tourists who aren't staying for just a day-trip just resorting to things like AirBnB, with all the inherent problems of that approach.
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Riley S. Faelanreplied to Psy Chuan :therian: last edited by
@PsyChuan Post-Soviet laws can be weird about this sort of thing. In some cases, and in some places, Tillian might end up being on the hook for charges and liability of illegal squatting for not having done due diligence. (NotLegalAdvice, obviously.) The possibility of such manœuvres is exactly why modern, civilised[1] countries have relatively relaxed documentary requirements on the tenant, and strict ones on the landlord (which can sometimes be counterintuitive for people who come from cultures where 'strictness of paperwork' is a generally valued value, or who just believe in landlord supremacy).
[1] But also see https://mastodon.ie/@Infrapink/113233284617950408.
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Riley S. Faelanreplied to tillian (returning soon) last edited by
@mynameistillian Do you have, or are you paying for, a broker?
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tillian (returning soon)replied to Riley S. Faelan last edited by
@riley a middleman?
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Riley S. Faelanreplied to tillian (returning soon) last edited by
@mynameistillian Yep. Where they're commonly used, they're often thought of as the ones handling the advertising, but they're typically also supposed to make sure that the paperwork satisfies the minimum legal requirements. I don't know how things are in Kazakhstan, but in some countries, the broker can get hired by the landlord, but with the expectation that the tenant would be paying them, which can come with the expectation that you can ask the broker for the paperwork.