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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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He's scared. He doesn't have any idea how to deal with a woman who isn't in awe of him, afraid of him, cowed by him or confused by his word salad. His people would need fire extinguishers for when his brain explodes. -
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JamesKreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Traditional Republican themes. She can lump it. What absolute rot.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to JamesK last edited by
@JamesK Yes, Ms. Noonan is wearisomely predictable and never fails to be supercilious and shallow.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse Yes, you're exactly right. As some psychologists have long said, there's a deep fear of women in many men, due to the fact that women bear life in a way men cannot biologically do. Take that psychological factor and add to it the threat that strong, independent, capable women pose to men who are essentially very little even though they think they're very big, and you have a powerful set of factors at work.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Steve Popovich last edited by
@sspopovich Good point. I suspect you're exactly right.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse I agree!
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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My dear, wonderful husband had not a misogynistic cell in his body. But I "intimidated" this guy who looked like a biker (& could, in fact, be very intimidating if a situation called for it), because I was an independent, well educated, self sufficient person, which he always thought meant I didn't "need" him. For 38 years I told him he was wrong. Maybe he just needed to keep hearing it. -
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@lolonurse There's perhaps a reason people notice that the male ego is famously fragile. So much pressure, much of it not even consciously applied, is used to shape boys into men, and the toll of those expectations can be enormous β especially in giving many men the sense that they do not meet the expectations. Because I was an unconventional boy with "feminine" interests, my father overtly repudiated me early on β verbally so β and perhaps that was a gift: I learned to be me and no one else.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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I'm sorry you had to go through that, though it sounds like you made the best of it. My family was so unusual!! We had multiple family members and friends who lived different "lifestyles" than the rest of us, and that was totally OK & respected. Made it so normal/natural for generations of lgbtqia+ and cis people who had different ways of thinking/expressing... Fluid isn't always easy to understand, but is easy to accept. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse Your family sounds wonderful. I love your observation that "fluid isn't always easy to understand, but is easy to accept." So it seems to me, including at a personal level as I keep trying, even at the old age of 74, to understand and accept myself.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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I thought you were at least 10 years younger than I, bc you were talking about your grad & post-grad in the '80's. But I just turned 74, so I guess we're "mid-century modern". Boomers to the end. -
lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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From my grandparents' generation, just off the top of my tired head, 1 gay cousin, 1 lesbian aunt. From my parents' generation, 1 gay uncle, 1 lesbian aunt, one couple into polyamory. My generation, 1 bi sibling, 1 ?cis non-sexual cousin, 2 lesbian women, 1 trans close friend, 1 gay best friend, 1 drag queen (RIP).
Kids' generation- 1trans cuz, 2 lesbian cuz's, 1 queer granddaughter, 1 pansexual non-sexual niece. The youngest generation haven't declared anything yet. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse Wonderful family circle. Because sex was just not talked about in my culture β at all β I never knew, as I was growing up, exactly where some family members stood. I now wonder about a brother of my grandmother who never married, about my mother's half-brother who committed suicide as a young man, about my mother's unmarried sister, about, as a matter of fact, my mother's first cousin who was son of John and Frances about whom I've spoken and who never married but lived with a man.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse I went off to grad school in 1978, as an "oldster" of 28. I had spent a few years doing this or that before I decided to pursue graduate studies. Then I took a full-time job in 1984 while completing my dissertation, and finished it in, I think, 1987 and got my Ph.D. then. You and I are contemporaries!
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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When we look back at our families with the "new" information of today, some things seem so plain. But they were so taboo to most. We had neighbors who were just the nicest people. After the wife died, the husband, 80 years old, came out. Apparently the wife & daughter knew, but kept his secret until she died. It was kind of obvious to us, but only bc we had "out" people in our family. What a way to have to live one's life, holding one's breath... -
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse So it appears β a good year, whose wine has aged well.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse Yes, that's right. My husband had a cousin who married, fathered umpteen children, and all the while was living a very promiscuous gay life with partners who included Rock Hudson. He had no choice β as with Hudson β except to come out when he contracted AIDS and, sadly, then died of it. Many people have never understood that a majority of gay men in many places in the world have always lived on the down-low, and may still do so.