You could probably say the revolution has already started and things are so tense people will believe it's true and run out and start the revloution.
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Very few people here seem to understand how high the bar is to get a violent revolution going.
Your average American upon believing that the revolution has started will shake their heads and maybe have casual conversations with their friends about that crazy revolution that got started while they drink beer at their local bar or bingo hall or whatever, and leave early cuz they gotta get up for work tomorrow.
No revolution is happening without the government making some serious disruptions to those people's way of life, and even then most of them will just blame immigrants like they're told.
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Imagine losing control of American democracy to Pinky and the Brain if it was two Pinkys.
Funny thing about that: the theme song lyrics say "one is a genius; the other's insane" but don't specify which is which. There's a fan theory that Pinky is the sane one, and his seeming non-sequiturs are actually him thinking many steps ahead.
From that perspective, two Pinkys could indeed be more dangerous than two Brains, yet even more easily underestimated.
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You say "yet" as if there's any indication it will ever start.
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Grab your rifle and run out into the street.. If you're the only one in the street with a rifle, go back inside. The revolution hasn't started yet.
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Well, let's play pretend for a second.
Imagine, if you will, a country that used to have good history basics. A country well armed, and with direct experience facing fascism.
Imagine that, despite the best attempts at killing that education system, that are still people that remember the price of fascism, if not directly, through the memories out those that did experience it directly.
Imagine that not all of those people are complacent.
Imagine that out of those aware, watching, and willing to act, there are some who have had the sense to recognize the possibilities.
Imagine that those people have been quiet publicly because they know they would have sounded paranoid. Imagine that, quietly and carefully, they've been stocking ammo, learning useful skills and hoping that it's all wasted time and effort.
Now, imagine that the pollen problem with forming a resistance is that you don't know who you can trust. Even in times of apparent peace, governmental agencies tend to keep a close eye on people practicing the kind of skills needed to resist, or possibly overthrow a fascist government.
You have to be very, very careful in working with others. To the point of essentially having no way to communicate outside of carefully vetted groups of like minded individuals.
Imagine that situation, and those people seeing fascism taking over. They'd be ready, but without a plan, without coordination, concerted effort is difficult. This isn't a hypothetical that allows for rapid escalations, especially in a world where false flag events happen. This imaginary situation would take a great deal of careful outreach to establish lines of communication between groups. You can imagine that those efforts would take vetting at each step because in the age of fascism, you will be facing an enemy that's capable of completely faking any evidence they want, throwing a label on you that allows you to be held without access to attorneys or the rule of real law.
I suppose you can imagine that in that situation, you aren't going to see many indications of action. You shouldn't see any indications because if these hypothetical individuals and groups aren't plain stupid, they know that showing indications is capture at best, death at worse, and the compromise of any hope of resistance at worst.
In that situation, maybe the only thing anyone can do is get armed, get trained, and be ready.
Imagine if someone waiting for whatever it is they need to be ready for can't be armed, or can't train. Then their goal should be to stock up supplies. Make arrangements to be able to host unexpected guests with a great deal of privacy. Maybe just take some first aid courses and have those supplies on hand.
Maybe those indications never come, in this hypothetical situation. Maybe those groups aren't enough, maybe they can't or don't make contact. Maybe it never comes to be. I mean, that's what is most likely, that nobody will be willing to take enough risk to do more than huddle up and hope nothing bad happens.
What wouldn't make sense is for them to be out in the open giving indications they exist.
Maybe they don't exist. Maybe the probability of all those factors coming together is so low as to be impossible. That's certainly a possible reason for no indications as well. After all, we're just a bunch of assholes running our mouths on a public forum, having a little fun with thought experiments.
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Okay, but still
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we wont get any good revolution by just throwing stuff around. planning and organization are the most important aspects of a revolution
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Lmao! That genuinely made me laugh in a good way
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revolutions take time. people are already out there building it.
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We are not hungry enough.
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I personally think it’s only a matter of time. Trump is terrible at the type of finesse needed to properly ‘boil the frog.’
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Brian Thompson would like a word.
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Progressives and MAGA both love Luigi Magione. Every shitty thing Trump does is another inch added to the smoke screen that the billionaires are hiding behind.
We take the fight to the individual billionaires, we're gonna have unity across the entire political spectrum in a second.
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I hope so. Traditionally the fascist way is to pick off small groups so they don't have to frog boil as much. Hoping they overstep their bounds and people get pissed and do something.
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Does make me wonder how many people are trying to affect local change. That's not going to get notice by anyone online, after all.
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Personally I think the frog is already well done, but Trump is the exact kind of stupid to crash the economy when given ultimate power.
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The revolution has already started
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It shows you've never been to a third world country. You have no idea how bad things can get and people still chug along.