I gave #Harris every reasonable chance to earn my vote and she just became more and more Republican as each day passed. And I will never vote for a Republican.
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micchiatoreplied to Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Vote last edited by
Just stop cavalierly adding insults of Palestinians to their injuries. #Biden has been the worst POTUS for #Palestine of any in #history. Youโre minimizing and trivializing the horrors of the current #genocide while ignoring the fact that any atrocities #Trump commits would be built on top of the foundation both #Harris and Biden have laid. Accusing me of expecting perfect and idealism is a hairbrained strawman that may get you blocked if repeated.
Palestinians say it best:
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Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Votereplied to micchiato last edited by
you are a toxic idealist
and you are harming #palestinians by masturbating your ego over demanding perfection impotently when all we get in this world is a choice between better or worse
That is reality. Not that reality matters to you
via your naive words, you are working to make this world worse
that is a fact
You have a big heart. Now use your brain
Bye
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micchiatoreplied to Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Vote last edited by
Bye, pro-genocider.
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Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Votereplied to micchiato last edited by
@micchiato that is what you are achieving with your words. not that you understand
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Vote last edited by
Micchiato, should Trump win and immediate give the green light to his buddy Netanyahu to exterminate the Palestinians as thanks for helping him win the election by playing 'Lucy football' (look it up) with the ceasefire talks and getting folks like you to blame Biden/Harris and withhold their vote... If that happens... And Netanyahu does murder millions, will you still congratulate yourself on taking such a strongly principled position? I suspect you would.
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vruzreplied to Ben Royce ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ Don't Boo: Vote last edited by
There is no such thing as "toxic idealism".
Falling in line unthinkingly and uncritically is fascism.
Vote tactically if you must, but don't be the S.S. of the forces of liberation.
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Netanyahu is already exterminating Palestinians with Biden-Harrisโ bombs and blessings. The less genocide that you prefer over the more genocide you see coming is still genocide. In fact, whether the next stage of genocide happens with Harris or Trump, itโs going to be extension of that of the worst POTUS for Palestinians in history. None of your casual sarcasm changes Bidenโs war crimes but your support of them says everything I need to know about the kind of person you are.
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Resorting to false shibboleths of idealism always reveals they got nothing left in their tank. Hence they put their words in the mouths of those they fail to persuade. *You donโt agree with me? Youโre a toxic idealist!*
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to micchiato last edited by
So that's a yes then. There is nothing casual about this concern. Should Trump win, all restraints will be off. You may proclaim there is no difference, but that is incorrect. It can always get worse. If you think it is bad now, and it is, what happens should Trump win will be much much worse. If Harris wins we can have confidence that, free of electoral politics, she will assert stronger pressure to rein in Netanyahu.
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to micchiato last edited by
Perhaps a different cut at it. People are dying and it is horrible. More people (a lot more) will die if Trump is elected. It is therefore the right course, if your concern is the lives of these people, to do whatever you can to ensure Trump doesn't win, which means voting for Harris.
It is not an ideal situation, but it is the only action that helps save the lives of those you care about.
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to micchiato last edited by
Agree that name calling is almost always counter-producrive when trying to convince someone of something. In this case, the better arguement is harm reduction. Understand that this line of reasoning is held in some distain, but the reality is that harm reduction is the only thing that makes sense. In order to minimize the killing we need to elect Harris. It's that simple. If you care for these people's lives that's the only responsible choice.