I'm not saying that we should murder everyone involved with this project, that would be illegal. What I *am* saying is that #Atlanta and the world would be a much better place if someone did do that.
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@sam And it's headed by one of those "modern" billionaires, as expected.
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Sam Whitedreplied to Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson last edited by
@SrRochardBunson Right? It's *right fucking there* by the trolley (or maybe they meant the one right by the airport? That would make more sense for a test since it's so close? Either way, there is a bus and a MARTA station right fucking there.)
I'm going to be stewing about this for the rest of the damn day.
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@tk Seriously; I can't afford to actually live in the city I love anymore or get transit far enough out to take me into the city quickly from where I live, but Altman can come in and build "it's like a bus, except it's not, it's a new thing that I totally invented and you should pay me for it". I can't even begin to say how mad that makes me.
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Wesley Cook ⚡🚲replied to Sam Whited last edited by
@sam Sorry but there is no chance this is even remotely true.
"Executives say its compact AVs can move people at rates comparable to rail at a fraction of the cost"
Total BS straight from the factory
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Sam Whitedreplied to Wesley Cook ⚡🚲 last edited by
@wesley Seriously; 10,000 an hour is what trains do. This can't even carry the same number of people as a normal fucking bus *facepalm*
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The Man From B.R.E.E.T.Z.replied to Sam Whited last edited by
@sam they literally want "light rail but dumber" for a half-mile loop that close to marta rail???
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Sam Whitedreplied to The Man From B.R.E.E.T.Z. last edited by
@BreetzTootz yah, for a place right next to a fucking train station… and of course once they realize it's stupid or get their federal dollars or tax break or whatever they'll pull out and Atlanta will get stuck holding the bag, like always
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@BreetzTootz although, if they did pull out and Atlanta was stuck with this, at least it's just an elevated mini-road, ie. bicycle path. Maybe it would actually make sense to have a raised bike bridge thing with some cool little stations where you could put lockups from downtown to the airport. Build an off-ramp at College Park and East Point or what not, connect it to the beltline, etc.
(still though, where bike paths go shouldn't be decided by billionaires abandoned private infrastructure)
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OhNoYoureInACarreplied to Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson last edited by
@SrRochardBunson @sam not to defend this puff piece or this plan - obviously the connection should be MARTA, and busses or trains would be better than these pods.
But the convention center in question is the Georgia International Convention Center beside the airport, not the one downtown.
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Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunsonreplied to OhNoYoureInACar last edited by
@OhNoYoureInACar @sam I guess that makes a bit(?) more sense, but why didn't the author know that? They specifically mentioned the 10 mile trip from airport to convention center downtown.
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OhNoYoureInACarreplied to Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson last edited by
@SrRochardBunson @sam I mean the author doesn't know much about anything except glamorizing VCs. Contract implies a counterparty paying for it, so I looked at who could be stupid enough to pay for a 10 mile path into the city. And no surprise, the answer is nobody.
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@OhNoYoureInACar @SrRochardBunson yah, I kind if figured it must be that one but the piece said "downtown". Either way, a single airport shuttle bus driving across the parking lot and back could do this pretty trivially.
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@sam this article is amazingly contradictory.
The pods reduce the footprint of mass transit by being narrower than a Ford f150 (not mass transit pickup).
Using standard roads doesn't work, but this will be expanded in the future to use... STANDARD ROADS.
This is just more 80s future fantasy based on elementary sci-fi book covers
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@ATLeagle yuuuup, it's always the same with these billionaire funded things. The reality is that they just don't want to be on a bus with all the dirty poors so they need their own thing. Every fucking time.
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Wesley Cook ⚡🚲replied to Binh ATL last edited by
@bdatlrides @sam @wesley oh wow so there are some of these already deployed? I'm interested in what the issues were (are?).
I mean I'm not going to say there's never going to be a situation where autonomous pods are the solution to transportation, but as it is they are just trains but worse. They are not a solution to mass transit from the airport to downtown.
They're trying to claim they cost less than rail to build (which might be true?), but we've already built the rail so it's a moot point. And there is absolutely no way you can ever move as many people as rail with individual pods that only carry a few people at a time. Even if the vehicles can move at high speeds cause they're autonomous or whatever you're still going to be bottlenecked by people entering/exiting the vehicles a handful at a time.
Anyway, end rant lol
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Binh ATLreplied to Wesley Cook ⚡🚲 last edited by
@wesley @sam The Cumberland Hopper is the best working prototype but runs slow and has had door failures before: https://cumberlandsweep.org/
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@bdatlrides @wesley I read a bunch about this before it started, but I've never seen it and I never figured out how it works. Is it in a separate lane, or does it share the bike lane? My impression was that it shared the sidewalk, but even Cobb transit officials can't be that clueless, right? (maybe don't answer that…)