Every time I see someone bring up "IQ scores" I feel the need to repeat: IQ scores were literally invented by eugenicists and they've always been biased towards privilege
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@RobertSE well, bridgy fed already exists and I don't really think that is my domain or responsibility
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Umm... there is one already?
Plus people are setting up a foundation to govern it.
Why are you demanding this of Christine?
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@cwebber Theres a study on babies, where they are shown a board featuring a smiley trying to go up the hill. There are 2 others, one preventing the ascend, the other assisting.
The babies are offered the others -- they all universally reach for the assister, demonstrating empathy being a hardwired instinct.
Months later they repeat the test.
Its only then that the deviation from the babies to reach for the antagonist emerges -- its an acquired perspective/behaviour in these young meatsacks. -
replied to Christine Lemmer-Webber last edited byIt’s one of the annoying things about Doug Engelbart being trapped by the language of his time. He was attempting to explain concepts that were visionary, but stuck with the constraints of the English language of his own era.
Subsequently, his phrasing of “Collective IQ” [citation: https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/172/ ] isn’t really about IQ at all, but about collaboration. The adage of Engelbart and his contemporaries, “each perspective is worth 80 IQ points” (and the additive nature of such things e.g. collective IQ of a group of one is 80, two 160, three 240, etc.) was a way to try to explain that by collaboratively sharing ideas, a group of individuals is more than the sum of any one of its parts.
I’m not certain of the best way to update that phrasing to more contemporary less eugenic loaded terminology. However, having known Doug personally, he was definitely a “strength through diversity “ sort and I didn’t get the eugenics laden IQ angle from him at all.
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