If you're looking for a platform without billionaire investors and owners, well, this is the only one.
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The distributed administration and diverse community structure also give it resistance to large scale bot and disinfo campaigns.
My main beef is that some design constraints of ActivityPub are generally poorly explained.
E.g, I've seen virtually no discussion about its "lossy" memory model. No instance sponsor can afford to archive all of the Fediverse message traffic. Hence, full search is impossible.
To me, that's a feature of ActivityPubs resistance to abuse. But others expect it.
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👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering）replied to Vic Uzumeri last edited by
@vicuzumeri Data impermanence and content obscurity is a feature as far as I'm concerned. @evan
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Vic Uzumerireplied to 👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering） last edited by
I fully agree, but it turns off my wife! I haven't succeeded in explaining the tradeoff to her
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👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering）replied to Vic Uzumeri last edited by
@vicuzumeri She's unsalvageable. Leave her on the pastures of Meta to get harvested like digital livestock. @evan
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Vic Uzumerireplied to 👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering） last edited by
Umm ... are you married? There are costs to that strategy.
I'm just asking if some folks who are smarter than me can help craft an effective story. I suspect there are quite a few potential converts who might be helped.
You know, a "feature, not bug" type explanation.
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@steevc which?
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👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering）replied to Vic Uzumeri last edited by
@vicuzumeri Just shout at her "JOIN OR DIE" over and over again. @evan
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Evan Prodromoureplied to 👺防空識別區👹 （mix mastering） last edited by
@adiz @vicuzumeri come on.
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@snaeqe There are!
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@vicuzumeri that's not a technical problem; it's a social one.
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@vicuzumeri @adiz @evan Having a global town square and talking to everybody is an illusion. Imagine you wanted to spend just 1 minute with every person on the planet individually, then do the math - this would take a couple of years!
Also, if you're interested in diversity, this is the only place where you can get it, because the engagement-based feeds hone in on your prime interest and then start shadow-banning everything else. I actually saw less things on Xitter than I can see here.
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@evan Says the person who took fediverse 1.0 to VC funders and turned it into "Enterprise Social Software".
Then the money ran out, as did you.
You could be telling that story over and over again as a cautionary tale, instead of kidding on that you're some kind of flawless elder statesman.
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Err. I think Evan was looking for other revenue streams to keep the identi.ca service going for enthusiastic and loyal users (like me and you). He was undoubtedly subsiding the costs of providing that service for a long time (probably out of his own pocket).
Not harbouring dreams of becoming a 'billionaire'.
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@andyc Thanks!
Also, hi! It feels like it's been a while. How are you?
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@evan Still working for the evil borg (Oracle) working on DB cloud migrations and studiously avoiding AI/LLM's.
Still clinging to the distant, forlorn hope of becoming a billionaire
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@andyc Good on you! You can buy a social network, then.
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@asha that's interesting. What do you mean by "not monetized"? There are already lots of Fediverse services you pay to use, like masto.host and wordpress.com. I think they're OK, although I prefer cooperative models like cosocial (which members also pay for).
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@evan
sorry, i expressed myself somewhat incorrectly, as you posted already before, i hope that the fediverse will stay free of billionaires, oligarchs, etc., and won't be hijacked and destroyed by them.
