Is there a "normie" or more mainstream instance for Lemmy?

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Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?

I've pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it's uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said "I just got yelled at because I can't be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.") We're much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre...

I don't know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I'd like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

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Well, I've always said that Communick is not meant to be an instance focused on any particular group, so perhaps it could count as "normie" for her?

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At a minimum, you'd want to find an instance that blocks lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. lemmy.world already blocks both of those though. The next instance you'd probably want to block is lemmy.ml, which not many other instances do. beehaw.org does, but also blocks lemmy.world, which cuts out a lot of the threadiverse.

If you felt like it, you could explain how to do instance blocking on your user profile. That might be too much for people that don't really care either way and just want stuff to work, though.

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I mean, it's probably best to stay out of political subs at that point. Reddit's pretty far left of... mainstream US media, and yeah lemmy is fairly left of reddit.

But to be honest, just politics in social media will always be arguing. You aren't likely to find a political group that perfectly lines up with exactly where you are.

haui

Interesting take.

I think what you‘re talking about is called „anecdotal evidence“. Destroying capitalism is definitely not the „mainstream“ on lemmy, far from it. Although We dont have „normie-lizing“ moderation and bot armies that bury every post thats out of the norm.

Of course we attract a lot of freedom loving people. Freedom, turns out is an extremist left view. Asking to be paid for work done, asking to be able to work from home, etc.

I would ask your friend to show you more than one incident and also ask them to be open to making a new experience.

And although everyone will hate me for it: if you want fediverse lite (or bastardized corpo fediverse) you can always test bluesky and threads. They are more mainstream since they have larger user counts.

Ada

Reddit was only ever left of center for Americans. To many/most non Americans, America consists of a far right party and a center to center right party.

What you're seeing is the result of a platform that wasn't first created by and for American audiences, and whose initial takeup wasn't dominated by American perspectives.

Lugh

I don't know if its what you are looking for but futurology.today is the fediverse sibling (same Mods) as r/futurology on Reddit.

(Disclaimer I'm a Mod on it & the subreddit)

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Kind of a silly question, but asked honestly: How much do you think the name "communick" matters when trying to convince "normies" to try it out? Would they see that, read it as a play on "Communist", and assume it's only for extremists or whatever?

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I really don't get this "if you don't block XYZ, it means you are in favor of them".

My instance does not block any of the big tankies, and yet it has not been a problem.

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I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.

That's a terminology issue that you're going to run into in any sufficiently political community. 'Left-wing' in casual use in the US refers to "everyone except the Republicans and some moderates", but "left-wing" in any serious political talk refers to anti-capitalism.

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You are the first that makes this association, at least that I know of.

Communick is rooted on "Communication", "nickname" and "unique": because the original idea was that people that sign up to the service get an unique username across all instances...

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I'm not saying that leaving an instance unblocked means you're in favor of them, to be clear. My response was only addressing the issue of achieving a "normie" experience.

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You’re going to get yelled at by lefties on any instance. That’s how federation works.

Rentlar

Roughly speaking, Lemm.ee is more libertarian some libright. Slrpnk is libleft but is home to pleasant politics community. Dbzer0 is anarchy leftist. World is closest to US centrist. Lemmy.ca is kind of Reddit's onguardforthee vibe, Left/NDP wing.

Thing is that influences from other more ideological instances will make it onto All threads. "Lib-shaming" is something some folks at lemmy.ml, hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml like to do frequently, which is where those experiences might have come from.

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I mean, if you don't want to dismantle capitalism, I'm not sure I want you around, anyway.

And you shouldn't feel "nervous". If someone is unable to defend themselves against ideals they don't subscribe to, they should work on their defense instead of running to an echo chamber. Debate us s crucial part of human nature.

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Agreed. I got lost at 'Reddit is left...'
Huh?

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Lemmy world left???? Lol they’re milquetoast liberals and capitalism is garbage. Your friend needs to grow up.

hendrik

Uuh, I don't have any good instances to recommend. But my advice is to skip the politics and news communities. I mean it's difficult these days anyways. But also here on Lemmy, they're not very good.

Banana

I've found that for those moving from reddit, sh.itjust.works seems to be pretty accessible

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Actually that was my instinctual thought as well. Though, I might be primed as a result of some of the responses.