About as open source as a binary blob without the training data
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Hedge |und managers aren't in the business of knowing things about technology. And I'm not claiming that I know more than "every" technical expert.
The thing is: not "every" expert agrees with the claims of Sam Altman and company. You'll find that most who agree with him have a material incentive to do so (or are deranged lunatics babbling about Rocco's Basilisk)
I'm literally informed by experts on the field. And quits a bunch agree that the claims of OpenAI are bogus marketing hype and that we're currently at the cusp of a bursting AI bubble.
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The differenge is that the dataset is baked into the weights of the model. Your emulation analogy simply doesn't have a leg to stand on. I don't think you know how neural networks work.
The standards are literally the basis of open source.
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American magic bean companies like Beanco, The Boston Bean Company, and Nvidia
Lol
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my definition givenwas too narrow
Yes, that's what I said when you opted to take the first half of a sentence out of context.
The common usage of open data is just that it's freely shareable.
Like I said in my initial comment, people frequently use "open source" to refer to it, but it's such a pervasive error that it hardly worth getting too caught up on and practically doesn't count as an error anymore.Some open data can't be reproduced by anyone who has access to the data.
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I'm not into gambling and know that the house always wins.
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my definition givenwas too narrow
Yes, that's what I said when you opted to take the first half of a sentence out of context.
The common usage of open data is just that it's freely shareable.
Like I said in my initial comment, people frequently use "open source" to refer to it, but it's such a pervasive error that it hardly worth getting too caught up on and practically doesn't count as an error anymore.Some open data can't be reproduced by anyone who has access to the data.
I was specifically addressing the use of the phrase "open source". And the term "open data" doesn't apply either, since it's not a dataset that's distributed, but rather weights of an LLM with data baked into it. That's neither open source nor open data.
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Just regurgitating propaganda.
No u.
Communism is defined by worker control of the means of production
No, that's socialism. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.
Also, the workers in China aren't in control of the means of production. The bureaucrats and capitalists are.
That’s how they lifted 800 million people out of poverty
While I applaud the better living standards: I see no contradiction to capitalism. Marx himself wrote:
The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?
Simply participating in markets does not make a country capitalist
No, but state ownership of the means of production makes a country state capitalist.
Let's come back to your initial point: you accused me of dismissing an LLM, because it is "communist". Comrade, I'm an anarcho-communist. I dislike all the hypetrain riding, water gobbling sharlatans in the current so-called "AI" bubble: Altman, Pashaj (don't know how to write him), Zuckerberg and Musk. I like it if the market get disrupted, but I don't like it if the AI trend continues to wreak havoc on nature.
Btw: how is deepseek "energy efficient"?
And also: All that has squat to do with open source or not.
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You can read all the other comments which explained why it is not open source. You can't really retrain the model without petabytes of data. Even if you "train" stuff on your dataset: it's more like tweaking the model weights a bit, rather than building the model from scratch.
"Open source" is PR talk by Meta and deepseek.
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We should call it Open Matrix.
It sounds cool, and the weights are a matrix.
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Yes. The algorithms are hard wired into the processor, and the rest is all data.
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The weights are the (rough) equivalent of a binary. If anything this is shareware more than it’s open source.
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It’s as open source as Candy Crush is today.
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Just regurgitating propaganda.
No u.
Communism is defined by worker control of the means of production
No, that's socialism. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.
Also, the workers in China aren't in control of the means of production. The bureaucrats and capitalists are.
That’s how they lifted 800 million people out of poverty
While I applaud the better living standards: I see no contradiction to capitalism. Marx himself wrote:
The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?
Simply participating in markets does not make a country capitalist
No, but state ownership of the means of production makes a country state capitalist.
Let's come back to your initial point: you accused me of dismissing an LLM, because it is "communist". Comrade, I'm an anarcho-communist. I dislike all the hypetrain riding, water gobbling sharlatans in the current so-called "AI" bubble: Altman, Pashaj (don't know how to write him), Zuckerberg and Musk. I like it if the market get disrupted, but I don't like it if the AI trend continues to wreak havoc on nature.
Btw: how is deepseek "energy efficient"?
And also: All that has squat to do with open source or not.
Comrade, I'm an anarcho-communist
If you lived in a stateless society and people wanted to use money, would you try to stop them?
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Comrade, I'm an anarcho-communist
If you lived in a stateless society and people wanted to use money, would you try to stop them?
Are you serious?
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Something can be open source without releasing all the assets. Look at Doom and 'freedoom' or quake3 and open arena, Pfsense vs OPNsense: These are all open source projects.
Open source isn't just what Richard stallmans says it is.
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Something can be open source without releasing all the assets. Look at Doom and 'freedoom' or quake3 and open arena, Pfsense vs OPNsense: These are all open source projects.
Open source isn't just what Richard stallmans says it is.
