Forget Vance. It’s •Trump• the Republicans should be talking about replacing.
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
It seems emptywheel is also wondering when exactly the press will apply their objective, unbiased reporting principles and trumpet the many, many possibly hypothetical calls for Trump to drop out (via @wdlindsy
“Outlets like the NYT have largely memory holed what a shit show [Trump’s press conference] was.
“In response to Joe Biden’s similarly awful performance at the debate, the NYT dedicated weeks to demanding he drop out.
“Not Trump.”
William Lindsey :toad: (@[email protected])
"Trump spent 6 minutes lying about crowd size. He spent 6 minutes lying about polls. He spent 6 minutes lying about the criminal cases against him. None of that has led the press to call the GOP to replace him. ... In response to Joe Biden’s similarly awful performance at the debate, the NYT dedicated weeks to demanding he drop out. Not Trump." ~ Marcy Wheeler #Trump #media #CorporateMedia #MediaFail #democracy /8 https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/08/09/trumps-imaginary-helicopter-friends-and-bacon-emergency/
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
Amid cratering support, key Trump supporters call for campaign overhaul, privately pressure him to drop out
[…is the headline the NYT would print if they had consistent editorial standards]:
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Kevin Severud :donor:replied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
@inthehands Who would be the candidate in that case, I wonder. Nikki? Vance? DeSantis?
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Kevin Severud :donor: on last edited by
Paul Cantrell (@[email protected])
Replies ask: Who would replace Trump? What other Republican could win nationally? What other Republican could possibly unite the party?! Hey folks, guess what: unless you’re a Republican, you don’t have to worry about it! The press had no answers when they called for Biden to drop out, and they don’t need any now to call from Trump to drop out!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
@inthehands Thanks for sharing.
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
I am completely confident that the US press will now begin doling out the hacked material to the public piece by piece, keeping this story alive over a period of weeks and months, fostering all sorts of wild speculation about the internal corruption and sinister machinations of the Trump campaign while implying the campaign is incompetent and possibly in violation of the law for having been hacked — as we all know is standard journalistic practice in this situation:
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Blake Coverettreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
@inthehands Who gets the job of decoding their take-out food orders and determining which menu items are secretly encoding their child abuse plans?
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
We now have confirmation that both the NYT and WaPo have received the hacked materials. That means the clock is ticking for them to follow their own precedent and start doling out the juicy tidbits as news. Neutrality demands it, after all!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/12/trump-hacking-documents-iran -
@inthehands I want 2 see all the files
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@julieofthespirits
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
Re the post upthread, Brian Beutler lays it out in embarrassingly (for the press) stark terms. Here’s what Dean Baquet of the NYT said in 2016:
“When we learn important things, to not publish is a political act. The calculation cannot be, we’re just not going to publish because that would screw up American politics. You know, at that point, I will go into business as like a campaign adviser to people and not as a journalist.”
But now…
Via @KimPerales:
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
Meanwhile, behind closed doors inside the Republican Party, pressure grows for Trump to drop out
Presumably
And shouldn’t the press be frothing and speculating endlessly about it? Because that’s how journalism is done, apparently
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
Don’t tell me there isn’t a single person, not a one, somewhere in the Republican Party machine who’s privately wishing for a different candidate right now.
This is totally absent in press coverage: not hinted at, not murmured about, not quoted anonymously on background, not echoed by very serious columnists, not amplified, not manifested. And that contrast to 2 months ago is damning.
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Michael Halligan 🇺🇦🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️replied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by [email protected]
@inthehands because 99.99999% of all journalists in this world have less integrity than a bridge made out of wet paper towels. That’s my guess anyways.
This is why I snicker at people ranting and grandstand over The sanctity of the hallowed free press.
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Morten Grøftehaugereplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
@inthehands The 2016 campaign was a lot of trump ranting about the mainstream media. He doesn't anymore. Seems he won that fight.
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
The ongoing trickle of replies to this whole thread along the lines of “well the Republicans would never •actually• replace Trump” and “whose mind would that change?” are totally missing the assignment here.
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@inthehands Interesting thought. A rational party might well want #tRump to quit, but he still has massive support in the US <:. Plus if he quits the election he could go to jail. And the #GOP is not necessarily rational.
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jonathanpetersonreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
@inthehands That entire thread of conversation is 100% on target. I'm not a journalist, I'm an engineer. But I did go through journalistic ethics training when I was at CNN and helped launch CNN.com. The right long since abandoned mainstream media because they thought it was biased against them. It's not becoming very clear that it's ALSO biased against ANYTHING that doesn't maximize the drama and thus eyeballs and ad revenue of politics.
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Dave Goldsmithreplied to Paul Cantrell on last edited by
I think you do get the rare hint that there are Republicans who wish Trump was not their candidate but it's suicide for any of them to say it out loud.
I imagine the second that he loses in November the long knives will finally come out.
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Paul Cantrellreplied to Dave Goldsmith on last edited by
@Dave_Goldsmith
Agreed if he does indeed lose.In the meantime, the press has absolutely no business just sitting around waiting for that.