Can't wait!

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When the price of those drop, the price of the ones that werent used for that purpose will also drop

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Supposedly they do but I've had surprisingly good luck with used GPUs from ebay.
I'm good with warning others against buying used GPUs on ebay though because then costs will stay lower for me.

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Crypto miners watcing AI bubble.

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Nah the hype will just make the POP louder.

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What did OP mean by that?

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I thought the efficiency curve for GPUs peaked before 100%. If electricity is your primary cost, driving the GPUs at lower loads saves money.

So you might end up with GPUs that spent their entire life at a steady 80% load or something.

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Just desserts

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Most crypto mining outfits undervolt their cards for lower power usage. They aren't cranking them as you say they are. A dead GPU doesn't produce anything for you; cranking it up the chance that it will fail. You're better off running it an extra 4 years at a lower voltage than you are cranking it for 1.

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Have you seen the price of new GPUs? Sure ya do. Maybe they only last a few years. That's alright.

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When the "Web" bubble burst, were we left without websites? No.

When the AI bubble bursts, it isn't going away either. It replaces too much labor. Training the AI models is expensive, but running them isn't. Especially on Lemmy, too many dullards don't understand why AI is so popular; it's because it's replacing your job - or allowing 1 person to do the jobs of 10.

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When the AI bubble bursts, it isn't going away either. It replaces too much labor.

The claimed amount of labour it could potentially replace is in fact part of the bubble.

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The fact that you can claim this unironically, speaks volumes of your ignorance.

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True, but many MANY companies went under during the dot com burst and made server hardware cheaper on the secondary market for a while

Same will happen with the AI bubble, there will undoubtedly be a few survivors, but many won't. There will be dead startups everywhere.

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Personally, I want to try to have a llama or something rewrite voice to text prompts into Home Assistant commands. Should be very cool.

But yeah, I won't pay the current prices to run it either, nor use the cloud.

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Yes.

They don't exactly age, but top of line chips have very large currents in very small conductors. When you do that with DC current, your conductors deform with time, up to the point that they stop working correctly.

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Unfortunately, this time around the majority of AI build up are GPUs that are likely difficult to accomodate in a random build.

If you want a GPU for graphics, well, many of them don't even have video ports.

If your use case doesn't need those, well, you might not be able to reasonably power and cool the sorts of chips that are being bought up.

The latest wrinkle is that a lot of that overbuying is likely to go towards Grace Blackwell, which is a standalone unit. Ironically despite being a product built around a GPU but needing a video port, their video port is driven by a non-nvidia chip.

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Silverlight, what are you doing here? Go on, get outta here!

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You're more likely to see the college bubble burst before AI. Colleges are struggling with low admissions.

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This was my understanding as well - that miners often underclock their GPUs rather than overclock them.