"TikTok is stealing your data."

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It will certainly take a while to gather all evidence and verify it

So … if the evidence hasn’t been gathered yet what makes you think it’s happening?

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When you said “pushing the … propaganda” I assumed you meant using algorithms to artificially amplify these messages.

But the whole article is just about Musk posting his opinions on X.

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I choose to believe a hostile foreign dictatorship means more harm than a hostile domestic for profit business.

WTF is the foreign dictatorship going to do to the average citizen?

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Those laws should cover every social media site though. Not just the foreign ones. If they're going to ban tik-tok they should ban the rest too. I'm not in favor of this but the double standard is fucking stupid.

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"Pig Butchering" and political radicalization towards violence, as well as the largest YoY increase in hacks, specifically from china, which have had large measurable impacts on US Industry.

And thats just ongoing problems, they've probably gotten enough peoples social security, bank acc no., fingerprint, facial ID, etc to do so much more if they decide to cash in on their schemes early.

Also, if they suddenly decide the USA is weak enough, such as after losing a third of annual defence spending capability via withdrawal from NATO, the Chinese now have intimate knowledge of our defences.

You are already paying the price and it could only get worse.

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My point is that you saw this image and immediately concluded that OP didn't know there was any sort of data privacy adjacent thing in the law, but in reality it could be that OP knew that but wanted strong protections.

When people think of data privacy they generally don't think of "selling data to adversarial nations." They usually think of "selling data to anyone" or "the right to request their data be deleted."

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If you don't recognize data privacy as data privacy thats just a skill issue.

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Most of those things are facilitated via US social media as well.

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This has already happened in douyin, Chinese version of tiktok.

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Facilitated by, maybe. Contributed to, sure. The primary end goal of, no.

ByteDance wasn't operated for profit like the others, it was operated to do harm. The fact that they would rather shut down than sell 80% of ownership for a hefty profit is proof of that.

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Yeah ... I said that. Your data can be used and sold, it just doesn't have anything to do with a tiktok ban. They already have your ad data, especially if you are a tiktoker/social media user. The van stems from security concerns, it has nothing to do with the average user, no one cares about them.

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They suddenly showing select videos more times than they have users on the country.

The evidence needed is to determine who exactly and why. The what is very clear.

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Pretty sure they're getting the internet hug of death atm.

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You're literally the one not recognizing it, but okay.

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Why would you now assuming otherwise?

Not to defend Musk's populist tirade, but I was talking about how he is using the platform to inorganically amplify these messages.

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I support blocking commercial, proprietary and centralized social media everywhere.

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I don't like to be that guy, however if we play with your idea, there are some issues you will need to consider.

Centralization
If we ban centralization then IRC, Signal, Xenforo, vBulletin, you name it will be forbidden as well. There is a reason why we always see some degree of centralization. Federation is tricky to get right from a technical point of view. Even when you have federation, each unit in that "web" will usually have a centralized moderation team and administration.

Proprietary
Sometimes, spam/abuse is fought with the help of obscurity. In other words, service providers will hide exactly how they detect spam to prevent spammers from adapting and bypass their technique. Even Signal does this. They have a small proprietary piece of code, specifically designed to fight spam/abuse. The rest of their code is open source as far as I know.
Can you suggest a comparable alternative?

Commercial
Do you mean that they at most should be non-profit? And if so, why?

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If we ban centralization then IRC, Signal, Xenforo, vBulletin

Signal is not social media, IRC is an open protocol, isn't it? I do not know about the rest.

Even when you have federation, each unit in that “web” will usually have a centralized moderation team and administration.

I do not have a problem with that. The problem with centralized social media is that users are locked in to using some specific app because all their friends are there, which makes it harder to switch. This gives monopolies like Facebook an unfair advantage.

Can you suggest a comparable alternative?

I dunno, how Lemmy does this?

Do you mean that they at most should be non-profit? And if so, why?

Yes I mean that. For-profit social media profits from increasing user engagement, even if that means through getting people addicted, intentionally not dealing with misinformation (because misinformation is usually more outrageous and gets people more engaged), data collection and other unethical practices, all because shareholders need the line to go up.

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Lol. Very true. And on a weekend! Lol. With great pow...app comes a bunch of users.