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dream_weasel

Oh yeah it's worth having a tachometer, but I don't know why you want one that takes up as much space as the speedometer on the gauge cluster. It seems gratuitous to me.

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Man, I miss my Sunfire so much it hurts my heart

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I love the potential of a digital dash.
I hate the wasted potential of actual digital dashes.

Let me fuckin customize it.
Let me put whatever gauges I want wherever I want. I know that the data is available over the CAN bus, let me fuckin see it.

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The thing about a digital display is that you can have things display however you want. You want numbers? Fine. You want gauges? No problem. You want sliding bars and thermometer looking things? You got it. You want a time chart of values over time? Can do.

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I mean, if you actually need an indicator, a shift light and a line of LEDs gets the job done better than a tach anyway, besides I've driven manuals that didn't even have a tach from the factory, it used to be pretty common. I'm pretty sure they stick around now because they make the car feel more sporty.

About the only time I actually needed the tach specifically was.. I actually legitimately can't think of one, nearly everything is by sound/feel and the times I needed specifics, like when troubleshooting, I would use an obd tool / tuner to see the exact values and plot them.

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No idea what that bottom driver is doing, but it indeed does not spark joy

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Even more infuriating when not only is it not customisable, but they layout they do use is just... bad in a thousand different tiny ways.

For example, the tachometer and speedometer on my vehicle have two display modes. The traditional looking dials and a more compact vertical wheel that leaves more room in the middle of the display for other things.

...but those other things are almost always either useless (I don't need to see a little picture of the vehicle I'm driving), or actively worse (the media info screen actually shows fewer characters in the larger mode).

It's not unusable, it's just varying levels of awkward or useless in dozens of little aspects.

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My Seat Leon has a digital dashboard, by pressing the "VIEW" button on the steering wheel it rotates between several different layouts, which can be customized.

I normally just have two normal dials, with a GPS map in the middle, fuel gauges to the left (because the standard place doesn't line up properly) and a media display to the right (shows what song/podcast is playing and the progress of it)

I can make my entire dash be a giant GPS map display, with only a small digital speedometer readout, but that is annoying.

These new digital dashboards offer plenty of customizations, but the formfactor should be the same as a normal dash

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I had a 97 prelude sh 5 speed. Great Lil car and a lot of fun to drive. But then I got my hands on an 02 s2000. Funnest car to drive I've ever owned.

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I had an s2000. My redline was about 9000 rpm and the gauge cluster was lit up orange, but lit up in such a way that it didn't really look like it was back-lit. It was an amazing gauge cluster.

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The best looking dials on a dashboard I have ever seen is the dashboard from the Saab 9000 CSE.

This isn't exacty what I remember, but close enough:

I love the green and orange colors, the car diagram, the turbo, temp and fuel dials are just great.

Granted I was a kid when we had that car, but the colors were beautiful

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I've dailyed six manual cars and two of them didn't have a tach (both Fords?), and one of those was too old to even have a shift light. Honestly, even when I was new I barely looked at the tach when I had one anyway, and I didn't really start to look at until I learned how to really get good at rev-matching for heal-toe and dropping gears. I just shift by ear and ass like 90% of the time.

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Gen Z: Can't read analog clocks. "What speed am I going? There are no numbers!"

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Wow, I didn't even notice the displayed values

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she is a very small and cute little sandwich

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Lmao, high beams, no seatbelt at 108kph for a 30kph speed limit. Ooof.

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Don't they sell add-on projector Huds which snake a wire down to OBD-ii port?

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Don't they sell add-on projector Huds which snake a wire down to OBD-ii port?

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No, I'm building a replacement unified speedo/tach for my motorcycle, the tach is huge and analog, speed is digital in the middle.

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Nah man, if you see your tach wobble, you know you've got a carb jet issue, or dirty injectors.